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ChickenHawk · May 9, 2007

I keep hearing that Test. is a must in any cycle.
But of all the reading I've done (which is alot) I've never heard thet you have to use a Test.
All profiles I read on Deca say it has "slow onset and mild properties"
could I get anything out of a short 8 wk cycle of just Deca? what would I need for PCT?

1badboy · May 9, 2007

deca dick

Just so you don't mind having no libido/boner (there are a few people that are exempt from "deca dick" problems, but I'd load up on the Cialis).

And aside from a normal PCT, you may need some other drugs to combat the gyno caused by the progesterone effects of deca (nolva, arimi, letro, etc will probably not help if you are prone to these effects).

I don't see why you would not want to throw some test in- it gives you that "well being" feeling too. I'm sure some of the experts can explain the synergy between deca and test better than me, but I just know I would not run it w/o test- just like I would not do a "tren only" cycle.

Keep us posted on what you decide- I can always learn more.

Nat · May 9, 2007

Good information guys. I tried tren by itself and it work great. But when Test was put in the mixture as the foundation everything changed. My opinion is Test is the best and should compliment any cycle. Believe I tried without and will ever do that again. Test should be the foundation period!!

FeverishFlux · May 9, 2007

Alot of time must mean less than an hour according to your scale of research.
You need to seriously use the "search" function available here. If you had done any research at all, you would know the catastrophic affects of a nandrolone-only cycle.

oldfella · May 9, 2007

Test is/should be a must in any cycle where lean mass gains are the desired outcome. Most of the compounds used are highly androgenic anyway, so the risk of shutdown of test production is always present. Add test and it tends to add a little balance to things.

marooned · May 10, 2007

You will totally shut your own Test production down. Also you will have reduced joint pain from the increase in fluid in your joints. Maybe you will have Gyno starting. Your libido will be totally flat. You will be a little lighter in the wallet and depending on your BF a little lighter yourself too.
Deca is a good steroid but 8 wks would be using it wrong. I am sure you want some gains for the money and what you put your body through on cycle and recovery. You would be disappointed with the results of this one.
If you only want to run one thing, and if it's your first cycle it would be a good idea to run only one thing, that one thing should be Test. It is the king.
For PCT run a search on this forum and spend some time reading. You will get an encyclopedia of knowledge at four finger tips. Also the Articles section is full of info. Good Luck.