Herrnon, Ry, A...can you elaborate on this GH question.

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Herrnon, Ry, A...can you elaborate on this GH question.
i was stated that using large doses of GH on 2 x a month is just as effective as daily injections....
can you elaborate on how exactly it would be done.
is this good for cutting or bulking or both depending on the other drugs used...thanks.



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02-04-2002 02:29 AM



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These echo the words of Paul Borrison
He believed that this way it mimicked (sp) the growth that a baby experiences when it is young when large amounts of gh is released sparadically into the body. I am about to try this on my next cycle 18 iu once a week as opposed to 6iu 5 days 2 off.


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02-04-2002 02:35 AM



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Wasn't that one of Paul Borreson's theories?


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02-04-2002 03:06 AM



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Yeah I doubted this...
...theory when I talked w/ Paul about it years ago but, it does work well. Basically I didn't doubt that it mimicked how your body produces it as a child around 18+iu's per day but, I didn't think that would be beneficial to BBers. I was dead wrong. I usually use 18-22iu's for 6 days in a row every month and that is it.

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02-04-2002 03:45 AM



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huh
Should this be taken rite before bed?
also what about insulin & T-3, since its only 6 days do I only have to use slin for a week? What is my best choice of Growth $for$
Cant wait to try it but its so damn pricey I wanna be sure to run
everything correctly. Any body help?



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02-04-2002 04:23 AM



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Ok here is what I do!!
I like this GH scheme especially in the OFFSEASON, though it works great while cutting too. Here is what I do:

1) I do 6 3iu GH shots for 6 days in a row usually first 6 days of month. I like to do shots all before my workouts which is like 7pm at night.

2) During the 6 days of GH I bump up the slin like 10-20iu's over what I usually use so if I do like 30iu's usually I will do like 40-50iu's split into morn shots and post workout. You gotta do more slin cause GH increases blood sugar and slin decreases it. So they knock each other out.

3) Using T-3 during is a must in my opinion too.

This way even if you are paying A LOT for GH you will only need like 70iu's per month and only like $150 per month which isn't bad and that is if you are getting ripped on price.hehee

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02-04-2002 07:33 AM



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'Slin...
Well, my job requires so much of my time while i am there, it is hard for me to determine when i can eat, that is why when i did GH back in Oct. and Nov. i did it W/OUT slin. I got great gains off of it, but do you think it would have been a LOT better if i used 'slin with it? Does 'slin really make that much of a difference?

Ry: I was up to 6 iu's a day at the very end. You are much bigger than me, i weight about 205. If i were to do the same GH cycle routine as you, would you suggest 15-18 for 6 days in a row, rather than your 18-22


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02-04-2002 12:17 PM



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I haven't used GH this way yet, but I will soon.
I normally use GH every day.
BIG difference with insulin than without when it comes to size gains!



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02-04-2002 06:51 PM



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Big A is right!
There is a HUGE difference. Flatline I would go lower on the GH if I were you but, a min dose of 8-10iu's is best IMO.

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02-04-2002 09:47 PM



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I mentioned this theory on animals forum
And they bashed the hell out me.
Says it will give you carpal tunnel?sp) or maybe even kill ya etc. etc. Just thought id share that, If you wanna check it out go to
www.animalkits.be/ then go to the forum an read the thread
When to take hGH.

Regardless I still am gonna try this method.
rAJJIN


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02-04-2002 10:04 PM



rAJJIN
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Bumb
Bumb.
Any terrable side effects at these doses?



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02-25-2002 08:52 AM



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Well it depends really. My feet grew to a 12.5 from a 11.5, my jaw is a little bigger(Dentist said that my jaw muscles are too strong for my teeth.heheh) and I am still fairly low bodyfat even when over 300lbs. You have to weigh the risks over what your goals are but, all in all GH is prolly the best invention since viagra.LOL

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02-25-2002 11:21 AM



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What about gut growth???
How does a guy escape that huge gut some fellas get?! That doesn't look too hot to me. I remember Big A showing some pics on Renegade and he didn't have the big waist. In the above post Big A says he normally uses daily. The question again....How to avoid the big waist. Its one of the few things I actually like about my physique...a smaller waist for a heavy person.



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02-25-2002 09:19 PM



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The gut is totally genetic. I know guys that have always been 100% natural and they have huge 'roid guts', even in competition shape. Others, like myself, can take as much GH as we want and never have a gut. My waist is 28" when I compete at 5'11, and I have been using GH since 1993, insulin since 1996 and IGF-1 since 1998.
If you have the predisposition to have a gear gut, you will, if not you won't.



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02-25-2002 09:27 PM



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Excellent info!
That is excellent info! I really enjoy this board due to the fact that I am exposed to people who have achieved what I am seeking. I am honestly greatful.

 

[richiec]

Is insulin a MUST depending on dosage

You literally just bumped a 14 year old thread, way to go!

 

[Marvin Martian]

Is insulin a MUST depending on dosage

YOU go way now!!!!

 

[Marvin Martian]

You literally just bumped a 14 year old thread, way to go!

Using my deductive reasoning skills - I have come to the conclusion that ole workhorse is attempting to achieve the 50 post minimum in as dumbass a fashion as possible.

 

[Stewie]

And how much insulin to rate of gh

I generally follow the 60:1 ratio rule.

60ius of humalog to 1iu of GH. That's with 25gm of fast acting carbs. Along with a gram of DNP.

Deathly results!

 

[Marvin Martian]

I generally follow the 60:1 ratio rule.

60ius of humalog to 1iu of GH. That's with 25gm of fast acting carbs. Along with a gram of DNP.

Deathly results!

AHHH - you were "The Crypt Keepers" coach I see...

Well - kudos to you my friend because that dude was "bone dry"

get it - bone dry ????

My wife is such a fuddy - she says that if you have to say "get it" - it means I wasn't funny -

 

[mexbeast]

I generally follow the 60:1 ratio rule.

60ius of humalog to 1iu of GH. That's with 25gm of fast acting carbs. Along with a gram of DNP.

Deathly results!

Man.don't do that! Watch some idiot actually do it and dy

 

[jasong]

Man.don't do that! Watch some idiot actually do it and dy

I'm sure Bostin Loyd would approve.

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[Massive G]

You literally just bumped a 14 year old thread, way to go!

Once in a blue moon these trolls trying to getting to 50 Posts actually bump a good thread now and again.

I am glad he bumped it this is one of the best threads on professional muscle read the content I have been looking for this post for years since the original one was by Phil Hernon on one or two large dose of growth hormone per week. Maybe we could have a real world discussion about this and how it applies to mass building .

 

[dantes]

Once in a blue moon these trolls trying to getting to 50 Posts actually bump a good thread now and again.

I am glad he bumped it this is one of the best threads on professional muscle read the content I have been looking for this post for years since the original one was by Phil Hernon on one or two large dose of growth hormone per week. Maybe we could have a real world discussion about this and how it applies to mass building .

Yea i am interested in what people think about this theory now and if anybody still does it. I would like to try something similiar.

 

[RamboStallone]

Might be interested in trying something like this shooting 20-30iu of GH a week split into two doses prebed.

 

[jlm25]

Sounds very silly...

 

[GodOfHormones]

I'm sure Bostin Loyd would approve.

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Bostin is looking huge in his last vid.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orCcb1QCx9Y"]Rich Piana Exposed By Bostin Loyd - FAKE WEIGHTS !!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[nothuman]

Lmao at the discussion from 14 years ago. That's a seriously different HGH protocol than anybody uses now

 

[Massive G]

Bostin is looking huge in his last vid.

Rich Piana Exposed By Bostin Loyd - FAKE WEIGHTS !!! - YouTube

Funny, watching his recent vid that got deleted..it made me think of the average lifter on here. Taking gobs of peptides, shots in the parking lot, and still looking very average, thinking all these shots will make magic appear on crappy genetics. Funniest thing was to see him shoot his snake oil in his flat skinny little pecs, when it won't make a difference. He should at least be using th real deal from synthetek if he wants to make a difference.

 

[Massive G]

Lmao at the discussion from 14 years ago. That's a seriously different HGH protocol than anybody uses now

I understand people laughing at things that they don't understand. Taking large infrequent doses of GH and insulin is the most effective way to take it.
I will elaborate when I am not typing on this damn iPad and get my computer back.

 

[Massive G]

Might be interested in trying something like this shooting 20-30iu of GH a week split into two doses prebed.

Try 12 to 15 ius every third day.

 

[myosaurus]

I noticed Rajjin was part of the above thread. maybe he can update us on how it went.
I read one of Paul Borreson's book and he suggested 2ius 4 x daily for 4 days in a row then stop for 6 days(10 day cycle), then the cycle is repeated for 3 cycles(1 month) then took break from it.

 

[nothuman]

I understand people laughing at things that they don't understand. Taking large infrequent doses of GH and insulin is the most effective way to take it.

I will elaborate when I am not typing on this damn iPad and get my computer back.

Oh I'm not laughing at the concept behind it. Just funny how the discussions about hgh/insulin are so different nowadays. I haven't tried that method before so I can't formulate an opinion on it.

 

[Massive G]

Oh I'm not laughing at the concept behind it. Just funny how the discussions about hgh/insulin are so different nowadays. I haven't tried that method before so I can't formulate an opinion on it.

Gotcha. I was taking a pop at you. You bring up a good point that everyone just kinda follows the flavor of the day now. It seems like back in the day a lot more experience went into stuff vs nowadays.
Chad Nicholls was probably the first one to popularize the infrequent use of insulin back in the day, and this thread topic reminded me of the good old days.