How many think I'm wrong

[Tough Old Man]

Is there anything wrong with starting a new young lad to training off by using nothing but compounds for ther first couple of months in order to teach them proper form and to build a good foundation? I getting my head beat in on another site cause all say arms should be worked also the first months.

 

[Dandy Don]

Smart old man

Probably one of the most intelligent routines I have ever read on these forums. KEEP PUMPIN !

 

[qazzaq9]

I couldn't agree with you more. I was taught to learn the squat, then some form of bench, then the deadlift. Once you got those down then move to other exercises.

 

[loganb_football]

I was watching a video where the guy tears his bicep by doing deadlifts, which just goes to show you how much bi's come into play on that exercise... Now if you dont think the bi's are working hard during back workouts you are kidding yourself. The same goes for tri's for bench and shoulders.

 

[thebrick]

I think you are right on target with that thinking. Keep it simple. I think it could go longer than just a couple months too. The guy is going to grow for sure.

 

[STEVO 47]

I'm a big believer in compounds. And yes later incorporate different
programs along the road. For me, I'll never drop compounds from my
program.

 

[Tom]

last year

for several months i stopped doing all direct armwork. my arms actually looked bigger and fuller by concentrating on the bacic compound exercises. lately i started arms again with light weights, short rest periods and high reps........it's all i need for now. soon i will drop the armwork again and concentrate on the basics till spring.

 

[oldfella]

If he gets all the compound lifts right his arms will grow. Do not listen to the other "ARM BANDITS" on those sites. Instead ask them to show you a pic of their legs!!! Then watch them run for cover!! AHAHAHAHA

Compund lifts are all he will need for the first twelve months. Good job T O M

 

[Ness]

Is there anything else besides a compound lift? I thought all that other stuff was for people doing aerobics.

 

[jcwill]

you are right on track with his training keep it up

 

[wannagofast]

Is there anything wrong with starting a new young lad to training off by using nothing but compounds for ther first couple of months in order to teach them proper form and to build a good foundation? I getting my head beat in on another site cause all say arms should be worked also the first months.

Man, I'm following your posts in that thread over there.

That has to be one of the most frustrating forums I have ever been to.

 

[bigguns078]

I was watching a video where the guy tears his bicep by doing deadlifts, which just goes to show you how much bi's come into play on that exercise... Now if you dont think the bi's are working hard during back workouts you are kidding yourself. The same goes for tri's for bench and shoulders.

Did he have a one underhand/ one overhand grip when it was torn?? Never take an underhand grip during deadlifts for that one reason...

 

[blackhole]

simple compounds build mass and allow an individual to develop a 'training base' which strengthens everything, not just muscle.

cant imagine training without deadlifts, squats, barbell bent rows, bench, military

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Compound movements alone changed my whole body type. My bones are thicker, my muscle is more dense, my joints are stronger. to be honest, I think someone starting out shouldn't do anything but compound movements if they want to be thick. If they just want big arms and a nice chest than whatever. But if they want to appear big... As in muscular big, they have to get inside the rack. Plain and simple.

 

[tkav1980]

i do use arm work but not much, if you look at the other thread i started theres only 4 exercises TOTAL for arms. compound movements are whats going to get someone the base they need for the first 12 months. hell those big moves should be the core of any training program IMO

 

[buselmo]

I'm not disagreeing here, but i think it depends on the client's background. i train a lot of people who were never involved in sports, ever! and most of them are as weak as hell. (hell, i was one of them and after 7 years, i can only bench 335 lbs). no matter how much you try to show them how to do the exercise correctly, they just can't because it doesn't feel natural to them. for instance, during deadlifts, they usually slouch on the way down, and they always lock their knees. I tried teaching two different clients on seperate occassions. both started with deads... none of them could get them right after weeks of training. i switched one to hyper extensions, and after developing his lower back a bit better and he felt like having a slight arch in his back as being normal (as opposed to slouching), when he switched to deadlifts, he got them right away.

I kept doing the bench press wrong for 4 years!!! i never rolled my shoulders in because it never felt natural and no one ever showed me how. after my chest grew (weakest body part), i had a better mind-muscle connection and rolling my shoulders in to isolate the chest felt more natural.

If someone played football and worked out to get stronger when he was younger, when he switches to bodybuilding he will be stronger than a beginner which will let him feel more natural and know how to do the exercise correctly.

remember, most beginners feel leg extensions are a natural movement, but squats aren't. Yet, veteran bodybuilders feel the exact opposite.

so all i'm saying is, it depends on the client, and his beginning level.

hope that makes sense

 

[Pekkerwood]

I agree. I also recommend this for friends who say they do not "have time" to train. I went literally years without training arms when I played a lot of golf. While I didn't burst out of my shirts my arms were not "lagging".

 

[james001]

Is there anything wrong with starting a new young lad to training off by using nothing but compounds for ther first couple of months in order to teach them proper form and to build a good foundation?

nothing wrong with that... for the first couple of years even...

 

[gridlock]

Is there anything wrong with starting a new young lad to training off by using nothing but compounds for ther first couple of months in order to teach them proper form and to build a good foundation? I getting my head beat in on another site cause all say arms should be worked also the first months.

This type of routine was what i did for the first 6 months - 8 months and now my form is right down to the point of ridiculously strict. did me no harm at all and has allowed to actually feel each workout unlike loads of other guys you see coming in the gym with dumbells all over the place like the king of the swingers.

 

[FRKNHUGE]

as said earlier, compound movements will strengthen EVERYTHING along the way, when i trained HS football players i had them do atleast 2 compound exercises a day, also it is thought that with multiple bodyparts engaged, a younger(teen) lifter, will secrete more hormones than just doing specialized movements, alone, hence bigger, thicker denser musculature that they desire.
this is the roots of a workout, i still build my workouts around them
plus alot of people are of the mindset, that they dont need to train legs, but in my eyes, weight training affects all muscular groups, if u neglect legs, it in some way, maybe neuro muscular pathways, will affect ur upper bodys response. ok im dun babbling
frk