I AM RETIRING FROM PM

[bigheinz]

here is my personal thing with a pro card, if I become a pro and can't be a competitive pro then what the fuck was the use of it all?? sorry but I strive for the best, I just don't want a pro card and ride off into the sunset, hell I want to be a very very competitive pro in the 202 div. to begin with then be a very comp. pro withing the open pro ranks within a few years.

heinz you make it sound so easy bro, but im going to be brutally honest with you. You are one of the most open nicest pro's on the circuit, and if being a pro just for the fuck of it is all right with you then fine, but to be honest even at your best showing on a pro stage to date you would find it very difficult to place in the top 15 in the super heavy class at nationals, there is no way in hell you could beat any of the top 8 at nationals this past november. Yes you have a pro card and i am envious of it, but at the same time what is the use if you can't be even remotely competitive, your taking a toll on your body for what?? to say i stood on a pro stage.. sorry but i find that silly. Im not saying this to be an asshole, I just don't see why you compete and keep going through all the madness, your genestics aren't going to change, use your pro status to help with your personal training business and give your body a rest from the crazyness of competitive bodybuilding. Honestly heinz even if you worked your ass off for the next 7 years do you think you will be competitive even at the smallest of pro shows? be honest with your self bro. same with people chasing a pro card that obviously don't ever have a chance of achieving that goal ever ever ever in their lifetime.

Thanks for your "Brutally Honesty" m friend, so do i have to hear you and abandom what i did achieve for 22 years or do i fallow Victor Munoz, Hany Rambod and other trully knowledge people advicing.
So, do you mean MHP made a mistake giving me an sponsorship, or even our biggest sponsor here Synthetek makes a mistake sponsoring me?

So do you mean all my several achivments, formenr businesses and incomes made in my country, moved by my bodybulding carear, even wheen i was an amateur doest worth it?
So do you mean that now as i pro i dont know where i am? and i dont know what place i am going to take in the contest? Do yo think i am thinking to take a first place?
Are you saying that i dont know my potential or genetics?

Man i do have to thank you becouse people like you make me feel good and work harder, absully with your actitude you make others succes.

I have met lots of people that envy me for my achievements and my work, as a bussiness owner, as an amateur and now ias an pro like you doing write know, some people call you haters, i call you frustrated people.

A person who evaluates other peoples lifes as easy as you are doing here should be expending his time working for himself.

Becouse people like you and others here is why we dont have top Pro bodybuilders posting here, and let me tell you, i have tryied several times to bring my friends to PM but they already pass thru what i am getting everytime i am posting lately.

How do you think out forum is looking when out "experts" (experts becosue they have 2000 post) are fighting each other, talking shit about others or evaluating lifes???

You know what it is very sad to see how my PM is not the PM i subscribed 8 years a go, even the most trustable and knowledge guys are screwing our comunity, and of cousrse it is very easy to hide with a nick name behing a computer and say everybody is gay, or do porno or sell drugs.... and you know what, i am tired of this shit.

After i moved from my country living my family and got my Green Card by an special imigration department for special abilities (i am sure you going to say they made a mistake too) and open my gym making up to 10 k a month, then i lose my gym and recovered again making 7 to 8 k a month as an independent contractor and all the pro status incomes brings me. I moved to Texas and a huracain made me move back to Florida again and recovered again in just 3 months i do realized i dont need this crap anymore, and i am sorry brothers but i retiring from our comunity.

Thanks to all of you, thanks PM directors and moderators, thanks all the members that fallow me since i was an amateur and always respect me like i did respect them and thanks for all your good coments and advices good or bad but with respect, thanks Big A.... I WILL MISS YOU GUYS BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO FIGHT OR GET ATTACKED, I DO ONLY HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO MY FAMILY AND LIFE.

ALL THE BEST

 

[RONJON]

wow..sorry to hear this ...hope to talk with you at this years Europa Heinz. Hopefully you reconsider leaving the board, but either way best of luck man

RJ

 

[marshallmadman]

I'm gonna order you a pair of Jay Cutler's "Hata Blockers". That way you can block all the jealous haters who type negative messages from the comfort of their mother's basement. I wouldn't even dignify a message like that with a response. b-boy got exactly the reaction he was after from you, bro. People like that want to keep you down and neg you out so they can both look better in the eyes of others, and feel better about themselves.

 

[sassbs11]

I'm gonna order you a pair of Jay Cutler's "Hata Blockers". That way you can block all the jealous haters who type negative messages from the comfort of their mother's basement. I wouldn't even dignify a message like that with a response. b-boy got exactly the reaction he was after from you, bro. People like that want to keep you down and neg you out so they can both look better in the eyes of others, and feel better about themselves.

Totally agree with this Bigheinz. Live your life and your dreams the way YOU want them not the way other people perceive you should.

 

[ironone1]

Damn, you retiring for real just cause one guy punked you off?

 

[Lenny]

Pro or not pro. No one can ever take away your accomplishments. I do not think bboy was doing that nor was he bashing you, but more just giving his opinion. That doesnt mean you have to agree or accept it, just read it and go back to what you love to do...bodybuild!

This is your community and I hope to see you such a good guy stick around. I enjoy reading your threads and comments, as I learn from many who do post, but that doesnt mean I change who I am because of a certain post or comments.

Again, I do not think Bboy was attacking you at all, just giving his opinion out.

 

[h8tr3d]

The guy has a Pro card...... thats more than 3/4 of the members on this board can say, if not more. Thats somthing realisticly most of "us" will never see. Why bust his balls? Heinz, I would be proud as hell bro. Thats an awesome accomplishment that no one can ever take from you brother!!!

 

[chris250]

Heinz,

Hey bro, I think you should reconsider leaving PM on just one statement...

I think you would be missed by alot of good PM members...

I do look forward to your post and updated pics...

chris genkinger

chris250

 

[eroc613]

Do what makes you happy. That's what really matters. Some people think because they reach a certain level of success, they have a right to judge others. When they should be looking at themselves first.

The statement that was made, was by somebody thinking they deserve what you have. Funny thing is thinking like that will hurt them in the long run. Very hard the market someone that is considered a negative person

 

[bigguns078]

Two things come to mind here.... Envy and Pride.... Damn those 7 Deadly Sins.....

 

[OuchThatHurts]

What?!?

BigHeinz,

You don't have to leave PM because a couple of bad posts. Please PM me. Stick around.

Peace.

OTH

 

[full_belly]

i agree i dont think bboy was "bashing" heinz but perhaps his choice of words was a little condescending....

guys we judge others actions according to how we ourselves would act in a given situation, however, since we all have differing beliefs and core values we have no place making validity calls on someone elses life choices... especially if they happy with their life!!!

 

[cb11mass]

Heinz... I wouldn't worry about what people say, the only time you have to worry is when noone is talking about you.
As a pro I am sure you had to overcome major hurtles with a positive attitude. Don't take some paragraph written on the internet to heart as an insult, use it as motivation.

 

[Ashop]

Hate to see valuable a member go,,,but you have to do whats best for you.
Best wishes with whatever you decide.

 

[terryd5150]

Big Heinz...

It doesn't really matter if you ever win a Pro show, obviously your "pro" status has helped your business and financial ventures.

That's one thing I think people overlook about just being a pro, and that is how it can affect other areas of your life in a positive way- if you are smart enough to utilize it.

I say continue doing what you're doing, it seems as if it's working well for you, providing for yourself and your family, and making YOU genuinely happy.

Isn't that what EVERYONE is looking for in this life?

Hope you stay BH, but best of luck to you in whatever you do.

 

[muscle96ss]

Thanks for your "Brutally Honesty" m friend, so do i have to hear you and abandom what i did achieve for 22 years or do i fallow Victor Munoz, Hany Rambod and other trully knowledge people advicing.
So, do you mean MHP made a mistake giving me an sponsorship, or even our biggest sponsor here Synthetek makes a mistake sponsoring me?

So do you mean all my several achivments, formenr businesses and incomes made in my country, moved by my bodybulding carear, even wheen i was an amateur doest worth it?
So do you mean that now as i pro i dont know where i am? and i dont know what place i am going to take in the contest? Do yo think i am thinking to take a first place?
Are you saying that i dont know my potential or genetics?

Man i do have to thank you becouse people like you make me feel good and work harder, absully with your actitude you make others succes.

I have met lots of people that envy me for my achievements and my work, as a bussiness owner, as an amateur and now ias an pro like you doing write know, some people call you haters, i call you frustrated people.

A person who evaluates other peoples lifes as easy as you are doing here should be expending his time working for himself.

Becouse people like you and others here is why we dont have top Pro bodybuilders posting here, and let me tell you, i have tryied several times to bring my friends to PM but they already pass thru what i am getting everytime i am posting lately.

How do you think out forum is looking when out "experts" (experts becosue they have 2000 post) are fighting each other, talking shit about others or evaluating lifes???

You know what it is very sad to see how my PM is not the PM i subscribed 8 years a go, even the most trustable and knowledge guys are screwing our comunity, and of cousrse it is very easy to hide with a nick name behing a computer and say everybody is gay, or do porno or sell drugs.... and you know what, i am tired of this shit.

After i moved from my country living my family and got my Green Card by an special imigration department for special abilities (i am sure you going to say they made a mistake too) and open my gym making up to 10 k a month, then i lose my gym and recovered again making 7 to 8 k a month as an independent contractor and all the pro status incomes brings me. I moved to Texas and a huracain made me move back to Florida again and recovered again in just 3 months i do realized i dont need this crap anymore, and i am sorry brothers but i retiring from our comunity.

Thanks to all of you, thanks PM directors and moderators, thanks all the members that fallow me since i was an amateur and always respect me like i did respect them and thanks for all your good coments and advices good or bad but with respect, thanks Big A.... I WILL MISS YOU GUYS BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO FIGHT OR GET ATTACKED, I DO ONLY HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO MY FAMILY AND LIFE.

ALL THE BEST

In any business or in life in general you are never going to be able to please everyone and are always going to have a decent share of people giving you negative critiques; that is just how life is. You can't let that stop you from being who you are and fighting for what you believe in. To leave this board and the many fans that are here for you makes no sense at all. I really hope you re-think and stay.

 

[alecaf]

Two things come to mind here.... Envy and Pride.... Damn those 7 Deadly Sins.....

lol no shit. And heinz your "i'll never give up" motivates me more than watching Ronnie do 1000lbs squats. You are to me, for this same reason, the most valuable pro to have at any board. Yeah you don't place high, you don't post much, you don't share a lot of your knowladge (which would really be nice considering you don't have Ronnie's genetics but are the closest to his size on this board, sorry b-boy), but when you do stop by you always motivate me in some way. And for b-boy --> not all of us have your amazing super duper genetics but we still have a hobby we love that don't matter who much we suck at it we do it cuz it makes us happy, and in Heinz's case, he's actually done pretty well, hell he's got a procard. And how do you know he's abusing his body, refrain from posting asumprtions in opinions cuz it looses all credibility, i mean just cuz you said that without actually knowing if its true i really though your whole attack was envious.

 

[bulldog21]

I sent you a PM bro.... I hope you reconsider...

 

[Homer]

When I read that post I was wondering what the response would be from you. Altough I didn't expect this response, I can understand your feelings of being disrespected. However, he didn't really say anything that wasn't reality even though it was brutal. You stood through worse than this.....stick with us!

 

[tkav1980]

heinz i gotta say man im disappointed in you. youve taken on alot more than this and came out on top. id like to see you stick around your always full of valueable information, and always ready to help out. it would be a loss to this board if you leave.