Is Anadrol toxicity overblown and a myth?

[hawkmoon]

Wild. Huge difference on hdl and ldl.

Any more readings that are comparable on other orals? I'd be interested for sure. I don't have enough with orals but I'll share below which:

Primo E 600mg hdl 27 (rest of bloodwork fine)
Tren a 525mg and winny 350mg weekly hdl 23 (alt elevated but in range, ast a couple pts out of range)

Mostly just these two. Haven't had blood work while on anavar, which is my go-to.
While on the A50, I was on my highest test for a short time - 1.5g. That was the only other AAS at the time.

The Dbol stack was the following, also one of my biggest cycles:
500T
60mg Dbol
400mg Mast
400mg EQ

 

[jeroendebleser]

How are you lipid levels?

In range.

But like I said I would never advise someone else to copy me as they may not be as fortunate.

 

[Swifto]

In range.

But like I said I would never advise someone else to copy me as they may not be as fortunate.

Can you post them, with your baseline values and then what PEDs you're on, doses and for how long?

What health supplements?

 

[marssel]

I am also very interested in this subject !

Overblown

 

[Zamun]

Wish someone would say this for winny. Give me an excuse to cruise on it.

 

[Undi123]

I've found Dianabol upsets my blood work more than Anadrol. I get all my bloodwork done while on and log the results.
My total cholesterol on 100mg A50 was better than 60mg Dbol. 217 vs 252 (no cho meds or supplements at those times).
HDL 57 vs 24, LDL 155 vs 223.

How about liver values on Anadrol?

 

[hawkmoon]

How about liver values on Anadrol?

AST 93
ALT 79
y-GPT 15
ALP 463

As we know, most of these can be influenced by training, and I'm rarely more than 2 days out for a session. I watch the y-GPT mostly.

 

[Undi123]

AST 93
ALT 79
y-GPT 15
ALP 463

As we know, most of these can be influenced by training, and I'm rarely more than 2 days out for a session. I watch the y-GPT mostly.

These are good to go! I have seen your previous posts in different threads, and I know you Sir highly rate Anadrol for muscle growth. I also remember you said that testosterone has never done much for your growth too.

 

[hawkmoon]

These are good to go! I have seen your previous posts in different threads, and I know you Sir highly rate Anadrol for muscle growth. I also remember you said that testosterone has never done much for your growth too.

Both true.

My body likes Anadrol, and testosterone benefits fall offf quickly for me. I'll keep test in always as a base, but prefer Deca for growth.

 

[Undi123]

Both true.

My body likes Anadrol, and testosterone benefits fall offf quickly for me. I'll keep test in always as a base, but prefer Deca for growth.

Do you think 8 weeks of Anadrol at 100mg is generally safe?

 

[RandomMachine]

What do people usually do to help or prevent potential stomach issues with anadrol and other orals?

 

[jeroendebleser]

Can you post them, with your baseline values and then what PEDs you're on, doses and for how long?

What health supplements?

I'm willing to ask my doctor to print them out but right now it's all on his computer. I don't have anything in hand to take a picture of right now.

But I'll ask him to print it out next time I'm there which is in about 2 weeks.

 

[Fleezy]

We should all clean out for 2 months

Then have a contest to see how long we can run anadrol until we develop jaundice

 

[hawkmoon]

Do you think 8 weeks of Anadrol at 100mg is generally safe?

Depends on the individual. Get bloods before and after, take notes on how you feel as you progress.

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

Of course it depends on the individuals tolerance to how they handle drugs. But personally, I feel its overblown

 

[LATS]

The poison is always the dosage.. we sometimes get stuck on a drugs " minimum dosage" effectiveness.. no such thing.. everyone is different.. if 100mgs is causing issues don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.. drop to 50mgs.. see how ya feel.. 50mgs may work great for ya.. I run 25 mgs of anadrol and got great results.. run the minimum dose you can..

That being said I no longer do orals.. just not needed..

 

[MightyJohn]

Overall I think the long term toxicity is exaggerated although the sides aren't(high RBC/Hemo, water retention, loss of appetite etc)...
In My 40s I wouldn't play with more then a few weeks 3-6 low 25-37.5mg/day...if I ever touched again(sitting on 18 tabs actually)...
Last time I will be running it

 

[jeroendebleser]

Bboy (and others) I wanted to say that my personal conclusion is that it is indeed overblown BUT there is some truth to it so I can only echo what LATS and hawkmoon already said: monitor it for yourself.

Also I agree with bboy that Drol is not strictly necessary. It's basically the same story as it is with Tren.

@Swifto bro remind me in a few weeks if I haven't posted the lipids results you asked for because I tend to forget these things and I don't want to be the one that doesn't keep up his word in the end

 

[b-boy]

Bboy (and others) I wanted to say that my personal conclusion is that it is indeed overblown BUT there is some truth to it so I can only echo what LATS and hawkmoon already said: monitor it for yourself.

Also I agree with bboy that Drol is not strictly necessary. It's basically the same story as it is with Tren.

@Swifto bro remind me in a few weeks if I haven't posted the lipids results you asked for because I tend to forget these things and I don't want to be the one that doesn't keep up his word in the end

Yes, I would love to see some people HDL numbers that have been running anadrol for long periods of time.

I just got bloodwork 2 days ago, but unfortunately my HDL is low, my cholesterol and LDL were high (keto diet at the time so I expected those to be elevated). The biggest concern is that my hematocrit has crept back up to out of range (my doctor is not happy about that) but I also had this bloodwork done on a full cycle which is 500mg test E, 200mg masteron E, and 200mg tren E per week. 6iu daily of HGH x 4 days per week (training days) and 2iu on my off days (my fasting glucose was 74). My liver enzymes were high but they have been like that for the past 26 years (how long I have bloodwork records) my doctor is not concerned since I have been given the ok by a liver specialist in the past.

 

[Swifto]

Yes, I would love to see some people HDL numbers that have been running anadrol for long periods of time.

I just got bloodwork 2 days ago, but unfortunately my HDL is low, my cholesterol and LDL were high (keto diet at the time so I expected those to be elevated). The biggest concern is that my hematocrit has crept back up to out of range (my doctor is not happy about that) but I also had this bloodwork done on a full cycle which is 500mg test E, 200mg masteron E, and 200mg tren E per week. 6iu daily of HGH x 4 days per week (training days) and 2iu on my off days (my fasting glucose was 74). My liver enzymes were high but they have been like that for the past 26 years (how long I have bloodwork records) my doctor is not concerned since I have been given the ok by a liver specialist in the past.

Yeah same. Bet they're single digits.

And stats and pics of people taking 3-6g per week of PEDs.