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MESSAGE FOR ALL NEWBIES AND AAS USE!

pesty4077

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No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!
 
No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!

I agree ...... and maybe..... you can be a little more discrete if you are just dying to talk about it..

Personally i don think its cool to join, contribute nothing and just confirm some cycle you just did or confirm your next one..
 
No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!

Agreed Pesty.

We know AAS is part of the game for many bodybuilders, so lets here about some solid training and nutrition backgrounds...those are things that will make or break you! Not saying I am perfect, but I would rather train hard, eat hard, and go from there!

I am not really a newbie, but still eager to get better. Good post Pesty and just to get this started out right and give a brief example...here you go: Thought I would kick this thread off for you Pesty!
1. age- 28
2. Years of training - since freshmen year in high school for sports, did my first competition when I was 18 years old, went to college and trained hard, but did not eat great...hey it was college, graduated and got a job and Continued to train hard and eating better....competed again this year and enjoyed it. So, I have been training along time, just need to get the nutrition stapled in my head.
3. Competitive goals with myself...to be better year to year
4. Diet: High Protein (250 - 300 grams per day), Moderate carbs (200 grams per day), and fat (whatever comes from the meats,eggs)
5. Current Training: High Frequency, low/moderate volume...plus moderate cardio
6. Studied the subject plenty, made mistakes and learned...never relied on it and always moderate about it! Listen to the vets, they are good at putting everything in perspective.
7. Get your blood work done, as many will tell you. Shit, get your blood work done regardless!
8. Criticism is way of learning.
9.Always open to listen to more experienced people, that is why we have this board.
10. Current stats...well the ones who know me know those and you can find the pics!

Oh and enjoy life while you doing all of this! Never be selfish and always be willing to learn!
 
lol just because its there first post doesnt mean they are new to the game.
 
lol just because its there first post doesnt mean they are new to the game.

When the very first post comes out and you are talking about drug use, Yes, you are new to this sport! I don't see to many veterns talking about it. They bore us with their training, and diet approach.:rolleyes: I look at this sport not like playing game. I look at it more serious than that, because I want to live a healthy productive life. I am not against AAS use, just people depending on that only for thier goals, instead of good old fashion hard work.
 
lol just because its there first post doesnt mean they are new to the game.

It is if they ask a newbie stupid drug question.

I/ve been working out for a week now, should I take A 50 or BD?
I'm not looking to compete, I just want to get from 130 to 215 ASAP, spring break is coming up.
 
lol just because its there first post doesnt mean they are new to the game.

Uhh Daniel,

When your 6th post is what you just posted... your a newbie.

Pesty is 100% dead on.

I cant count the times i have logged on and seen a dude with 3 posts asking what would be the best steroid to take for gaining 20lbs before there beach vacation.... or, some dude stole his girlfriend so now he wants to know how much is a good price for anadrol and how many should he take per day in order to go beat up the guy who stole his woman.
Damn.. first off... no matter if you like it or not, steroids are illegal. Its not wise to try and gain NEW trust asking questions about ILLEGAL drugs on your first 2 or 3 posts.
Second... after about 20 posts and you think you have the answers... you all of a sudden become a guru and start answering other newbie questions when you dont even know the answers.
Great post Pesty... along with Baldnazis post maybe we can get things swinging in the right direction some time before all these kids ruin our wonderful community.
 
so if i was a member on this site for one year and had 5968 posts would i be a newbie?
half the posts people make are useless any way. some times people post up things that have already been said just so there post count goes up.
 
so if i was a member on this site for one year and had 5968 posts would i be a newbie?
half the posts people make are useless any way. some times people post up things that have already been said just so there post count goes up.

yeah you would still be a newb because you have obviously spent so much time here posting shit that's unnecessary..

look what Pesty is trying to say is that anybody who has been in the sport long enough and knows their shit, knows that the drugs arent the be all and end all of the sport. and you wouldn't go up to another guy in the gym and say "hi, what you running at the moment"

so the same goes here. nobody wants to hear it if you're just gonna come on here and wax lyrical about the drugs you take / want to take.
 
It is if they ask a newbie stupid drug question.

I/ve been working out for a week now, should I take A 50 or BD?
I'm not looking to compete, I just want to get from 130 to 215 ASAP, spring break is coming up.

If this dosent read like a PH/DS post on BB.com I dont know what does. LOL


Also the whole complaining about the price in your area in a veiled attempt to fish for a source does not make a great first post either.
 
The SEARCH button goes a long way.

I have no problem if someones's 1st post is about a question BUT i want to be able to tell they've actually been doing some leg work 1st. 99% of the time though this is not the case.
 
No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!

Hard work will always beat drug use for the new guys ...What do I mean by that...If your a natty, and train hard for a year or two, put on a solid 10 lbs of good muscle...Get leaner ,ect, ect...Then your buddy gets jelous, because he is a lazy ass, goes to the local dealer or someplace on the net..Gets lucky scores some AAS, does a good cycle, gains 20lbs of muscle, comes off and doesnt know how to do proper PCT (hell he didnt know how to eat or train correctly) and then loses it all in a matter of 6 months..The hard training, willing to learn, and taking time to grow (its not a race people) is going to be much bigger in the end...

IMHO

chris

PS - good post pesty, JJ, malcom
 
I am pro-newbie, but I do agree the first posts being concerning drug use makes my leery. Its like being a guest in someones house and your first time walking through the front door asking them where the bathroom is so you can take a crap.
 
i agree that you cant measure a newbie just based off of the number of posts. everyone knows, as weve been seeing on here lately, that a lot of newbies are just running around ramplantly post-whoring. I think its more fair to look at the quality of the posts to determine the knowledge base of each person. I know that there are always breakthroughs in research and new information on healthy living coming out everyday so everyone always has something to learn.

and as for the newbies running around trying to do half-assed cycles and not putting their time in, you will pay for it in the future. this is not something that should be taken as a joke.


peace. love. bigduff.
 
and i guess since i have just recently joined the board i should go ahead and tell yall a lil about me

1.) Your age-- 23 6'1 205lbs
2.) How long have you been training?-- ive been active in sports my whole life. ive been training seriously since my freshman yr of highschool. trained very very very hard through college but my diet was poor(tough to cut out the alcohol haha) I did a show my senior yr of college (march of 08) also before that i was very big into MMA and fought for about 3 years.
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve? I would like to compete and also I want to live the healthiest lifestyle i can.
4.) Your current diet-- have been lagging the past new months due to a new job and relocating, but am getting back on it. having set a strict plan in stone yet but should be up soon
5.) Your current training program (cardio 5x wk and weights eod) puttting some weight back on after cutting from mma
6.) Have you studied the subject (studied nonstop for last 6 yrs; always learning!)
7.) How it will effect me when I get older( always getting bloodtests when needed and making sure im as healthy as an ox )
8.) Am I open to critism? very coachable, always willing to listen and learn, there is always someone smarter than me.
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people? i guess thats covered in 8 haha
10.) Your current stats and pictures! 6'1 205 currently about 7-8% bf. fought mma at 185 and did my show at 200! pics will be coming soon when i actually get a new camera haha!

I am always reading and trying to learn. any help yall can provide and have provided so far has been a great help. like i said theres always something to learn!
 
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Sup guys. As I just made my first post a few days ago I figured I might as well introduce myself.

1.) Your age. 27
2.) How long have you been training? Since I was probably 16. Not all of it has been bodybuilding. I'd say I have a solid 6 years of bodybuilding experience though it hasn't all been consecutive.
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve? I suppose I fall somewhere in the middle. Might consider competing for fun someday but for now I don't think that's my calling in life. I generally only compete with myself and always try to make new gains.
4.) Your current diet. I've tried different things in the past. When I first started training (around age 16) I knew nothing about diet. Not supprisingly I made few gains. When bodybuilding realy started to work for me was when someone explained to me how surplus calories were needed for gaining muscle mass. I've tried following some diets down to every last detail and I've tried the less strict approach of keeping the protein levels up, watch carbs before bedtime, and eat what you're body tells you you need. To answer the question though currently my diet isn't the greatest since I kicked my girlfriend out. My own cooking is detestable.
5.) Your current training program. I modified the program that's in the growth principles for beginners sticky thread (found here: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/articles-forum/1158-growth-principles-beginners.html )I was followng the principles closely for a while and got good results out of it. I modified it to 1 powerlift set per exercise (3-5 reps, more than 5 and it wasn't heavy enough) followed by 3 BB sets (more than 10 reps and it wasn't heavy enough) and i'm continuing to get good results from it.
6.) Have you studied the subject. Yes, I did what I feel was sufficient research and sufficient training before I ever considered the other way. I don't consider myself an expert but even amongst experts there's always arguments about the best way to use what.
7.) How it will effect me when I get older. Reports vary. I've heard everything from not at all to I've already got 1 foot in the grave. I think the real answer lies somewhere in the middle. It seems for most people who take the recommended amount of downtime (I always do, no exceptions) the future side effects are little to none.
8.) Am I open to critism? Yes. If you think i'm a dumbass and my diet and training are absolutely terrible I want to know. I'd appreciate helpful suggestions on ways in which i can improve though.
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people? Totally.
10.) Your current stats and pictures! 5'9" 215 lbs. Just finished bulking, got what I consider to be good results. I'll admit I tend to carry fat around my midsection, especially when bulking, getting rid of that fat is my next goal. I stopped cardio completely while bulking and I don't think I'm gonna try that again. I'm upping the cardio now to twice a week, 30 minutes minimum, HR anywhere from 155 to 195. I wish I could give you an accurate body fat percentage but I don't have any reliable way to measure. I can tell you I can see protuding veins in my forearms up to about the midpoint of my biceps. I can see abdominal outlines but definately not a perfect 6 pack. Maybe I'll post some pics another time, I'm late for the gym and starting to panic.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm sorry for making my first post a question about AAS but sometimes you just need an answer fast and I knew I could find experience here. I always do a search before posting on any forum but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.

This may warrant a new thread but I'm curious about what you guys think about the cardio heart rate. I've heard anything over 135 and I'm burning muscle but I think the higher heart rate is a much better workout for your heart.
 
This may warrant a new thread but I'm curious about what you guys think about the cardio heart rate. I've heard anything over 135 and I'm burning muscle but I think the higher heart rate is a much better workout for your heart.

I think it all depends on what type of nutrition plan you on. Very low carb or keto style diets I would say possibly you could burn muscle by going into the cardio zone for too long, the goal is to stay in fat burning zone. But, again if you moderate to high carbs, I think you will be fine because you body will use that fuel before it gets to the muscle. Again, it is all individual thing and if you are burning fat and maintaining muscle by doing that type of cardio, then why change it...only fix or adjust if it is broken.
 
YUP!!! Well said guys...when i started years back i remember being "that guy"...its not cool to be that guy! I have learned and hopefully we can keep that shit to a minimum here. It makes the board look bad in my opinion. Of course everyone is here to help but there is a more discrete and respectful way of going about getting the info and asking questions IMO

Peace


No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!
 
No offense, but are we getting alot of newbies talking about drug use their very first post! Personally, I like to see a good diet and training routine first. It would make some of us on here, maybe want to help you more. We don't give a crap about your drug use, if that is all you are going to talk about. It lets me believe that you are not going to last. I get tired of guys, who really just started lifting, wanting to take AAS right away. I personally am for AAS under the right setttings. My top 10 questions that should be asked first!

1.) Your age
2.) How long have you been training?
3.) Do I want a beach body or want to be competitve?
4.) Your current diet
5.) Your current training program
6.) Have you studied the subject
7.) How it will effect me when I get older
8.) Am I open to critism?
9.) Am I willing to listen to more experience people?
10.) Your current stats and pictures!

Good post. Newbs these days want info/cycles, nutrition, training programs spoonfed to them. :rolleyes: It amazes me how lazy some people are.
 

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