Elvia1023
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I don't know if his heart was enlarged (which gh would contribute to)...he had blocked arteries. He had severe cholesterol issues and was on Lipitor, he had an hdl of zero I heard.
Along with curcumin im starting to think that every single bodybuilder should be taking vitamin K2 (MK-7) which is virtually the only supplement Ive ever seen with scientific evidence to back it up that it dissolves and removes plaque from blood vessels.
In fact I would love it to be standard in bodybuilding that if you juice...you need to do this and this and that.....to take care of the risk factors....I would love to see that mentality take over. How many guys are it going to take to drop dead in their late 30's and 40's for this to happen. Nobody is going to stop juicing so we have to take a new angle at this stuff.
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John Doe is juicing, and he is using GH, so without any question he must use curcumin which stops and reverses cardiomyopathy (heart enlargement), his bloodwork says that he has low hdl, high ldl, and this problem and that problem so he must take these supplements to counteract that (lets say hypothetically querecetin, coenzyme q 10, arjuna, milk thistle etc etc). Whatever it is.....im just using this for "example" sake
At one time people only used steroids and there were a host of problems with estrogen. Duchaine came up with a solution to that and then people have evolved that to what is done today with anti arom and anti E's. I would like to see a "set in stone"...YOU GOT TO DO THIS....supplement and cardio regimen for anyone who is juicing put forward by the most studious minds in bodybuilding....a program that is adopted by everyone and added too as new research comes out.....and people are ridiculed if they juice without doing it.
Im freaking tired of seeing this stuff.
And I guess im tired of seeing young guys follow people like "Mr 13000 mg a week" who destroyed his tricep last year and it has atrophied and now jokes that his infected lat is something "that happens to everyone...he is the only one that talks about it"
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...69139474.78620.100000486896956&type=1&fref=nf
I saw that pic on facebook before. He is an embarrassment to bodybuilding. I see why guys like him (honest, open, willing to post crap pics) but that's just plain bad.