NAD+ is it effective?

pistonpump · May 23, 2023

Im clueless about this and instead of googling and reading I thought guys could just share experiences and knowledge on using NAD+. Seems like a new supplement gaining traction. So what do you use it for and how have you used it?

Cerberus777 · May 24, 2023

I'm on 300mg injectable NMN a day. NMN is the precursor to NAD, I've noticed improvements in energy, endurance, insulin sensitivity and mental clarity. It's more of a longevity thing. But increase energy to mitochondria is a big part of it. And it decreases with age.

pistonpump · May 25, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
I'm on 300mg injectable NMN a day. NMN is the precursor to NAD, I've noticed improvements in energy, endurance, insulin sensitivity and mental clarity. It's more of a longevity thing. But increase energy to mitochondria is a big part of it. And it decreases with age.

What's your age now? How long have y been using nmn

Cerberus777 · May 25, 2023

pistonpump said:
What's your age now? How long have y been using nmn

48, about a month. It's supposed to get better the longer you're on it.

mexbeast · May 25, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
I'm on 300mg injectable NMN a day. NMN is the precursor to NAD, I've noticed improvements in energy, endurance, insulin sensitivity and mental clarity. It's more of a longevity thing. But increase energy to mitochondria is a big part of it. And it decreases with age.

Did you get that from vrs? Sounds interesting

Cerberus777 · May 25, 2023

mexbeast said:
Did you get that from vrs? Sounds interesting

Home brewed. But I'd trust VRS

cmryan · May 26, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
I'm on 300mg injectable NMN a day. NMN is the precursor to NAD, I've noticed improvements in energy, endurance, insulin sensitivity and mental clarity. It's more of a longevity thing. But increase energy to mitochondria is a big part of it. And it decreases with age.

I have to admit I'm fairly ignorant on the compound. Why NMN instead of NAD? Is there an ≈ dose equivalent between NAD and NMN? Is this a pre-workout compound or anytime of day?

Cerberus777 · May 26, 2023

cmryan said:
I have to admit I'm fairly ignorant on the compound. Why NMN instead of NAD? Is there an ≈ dose equivalent between NAD and NMN? Is this a pre-workout compound or anytime of day?

Well NMN may not be on the market much longer. Thanks to big Pharm. NAD is rapidly utilized or excreted VS NMN will stick around and be converted slower giving more saturation. But I'll switch to NAD when I have too, I get a little more endurance if used pre workout but it's more of a saturating mitochondria thing, with more all day energy. NAD might have more kick, I have some but haven't tried it yet.

jcc80 · May 26, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
Well NMN may not be on the market much longer. Thanks to big Pharm. NAD is rapidly utilized or excreted VS NMN will stick around and be converted slower giving more saturation. But I'll switch to NAD when I have too, I get a little more endurance if used pre workout but it's more of a saturating mitochondria thing, with more all day energy. NAD might have more kick, I have some but haven't tried it yet.

Fortunately an overseas sponsor has 100g NMN for an amazing price. Hopefully it's legit... They've posted up lab results of their other stuff but not this yet.

By the way, did you attempt to brew higher than 150 mg/ml of NMN? I just did my first homebrew of carnitine tonight and I'm feeling confident now.

Cerberus777 · May 26, 2023

jcc80 said:
Fortunately an overseas sponsor has 100g NMN for an amazing price. Hopefully it's legit... They've posted up lab results of their other stuff but not this yet.

By the way, did you attempt to brew higher than 150 mg/ml of NMN? I just did my first homebrew of carnitine tonight and I'm feeling confident now.

PM me the name please. 150 is the max for a quick batch, I haven't tried to slowly add in more, might try next batch since I only make 10 days worth.

01dragonslayer · May 26, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
I'm on 300mg injectable NMN a day. NMN is the precursor to NAD, I've noticed improvements in energy, endurance, insulin sensitivity and mental clarity. It's more of a longevity thing. But increase energy to mitochondria is a big part of it. And it decreases with age.

Not to hi-jack but can you post or PM me your recipe? I just got some raw powder and been researching for a recipe. I have one but just like to compare. And is this brewed at 300mg/ml or you just administer 3ml brewed at 100mg/ml?

Thanks.

Cerberus777 · May 26, 2023

01dragonslayer said:
Not to hi-jack but can you post or PM me your recipe? I just got some raw powder and been researching for a recipe. I have one but just like to compare. And is this brewed at 300mg/ml or you just administer 3ml brewed at 100mg/ml?

Thanks.

150mg

Cerberus777 · May 26, 2023

01dragonslayer said:
Not to hi-jack but can you post or PM me your recipe? I just got some raw powder and been researching for a recipe. I have one but just like to compare. And is this brewed at 300mg/ml or you just administer 3ml brewed at 100mg/ml?

Thanks.

150mg ml PM sent. I did bigger batches than 30ml but it gets stingy after 10 days and I read it degrades in water after 10 days.

01dragonslayer · May 26, 2023

Cerberus777 said:
150mg ml PM sent. I did bigger batches than 30ml but it gets stingy after 10 days and I read it degrades in water after 10 days.

Thank you. So you would suggest not to make 100ml batches?

Cerberus777 · May 26, 2023

01dragonslayer said:
Thank you. So you would suggest not to make 100ml batches?

No I did that and it stings after 10 days and I stopped feeling it a few weeks later. Then I read it degrades in 10 days. So I make 30ml at a time.

01dragonslayer · May 26, 2023

jcc80 · May 27, 2023

I wonder if NR is more stable for longer term storage? Though last time I tasted NR powder it tasted kinda acidic. Might have some bite.

I think I will just get some 20ml vials and do smaller batches of NMN. In one of your PMs you said baking soda didn't really change anything. So it just has a little bite to it?

By the way, anyone find the injectable to be substantially more effective than oral? I'm getting kinda excited to test it out.

goback2013 · Jan 5, 2024

Cerberus777 said:
Well NMN may not be on the market much longer. Thanks to big Pharm. NAD is rapidly utilized or excreted VS NMN will stick around and be converted slower giving more saturation. But I'll switch to NAD when I have too, I get a little more endurance if used pre workout but it's more of a saturating mitochondria thing, with more all day energy. NAD might have more kick, I have some but haven't tried it yet.

What NMN powder are you using ?
Thinking of putting together a whole anti-aging injectable stack

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