Protein Quality

GoneForever · May 11, 2009

So in the past i've used all the desiner protiens like optimum,champion,etc.. and then heard the quality isnt nearly as good as stuff from trueprotein or proteinfactory and lba's,etc... so lately i've been using lba's, TP's beef isolate, TP's CFM and TP's ultra isolate and sometimes PF's microfiltered isolate. Now, I got a buddy who works at max muscle and can hook me up with shit for free. I know they isolate is CFM so thats good but they also got stuff like High5 which is a blend of concentrate,isolate,soy,milk and egg and stuff like Maxpro which is milk,concentrate and isolate,etc... So basically if im gonna get this shit for free should I just double up the dose to get the same quality as stuff from TP and other top notch places. Like if I want 50g i'll take maybe 70 or 80,etc..

vadim_b1 · May 11, 2009

its not just about how much protein youre getting per serving

its the presence of impurities, presence of lactose/fat/ash, lactalbumin/lactoglobulin ratio, denatured to undenatured microfractions (lactoferrin/immunoglobulins/glycomacropeptide)

if you want high quality protein, buy it, you cant just add tons of low quality shit to make up.

PHIL HERNON · May 11, 2009

So

fourthgen said:
So in the past i've used all the desiner protiens like optimum,champion,etc.. and then heard the quality isnt nearly as good as stuff from trueprotein or proteinfactory and lba's,etc... so lately i've been using lba's, TP's beef isolate, TP's CFM and TP's ultra isolate and sometimes PF's microfiltered isolate. Now, I got a buddy who works at max muscle and can hook me up with shit for free. I know they isolate is CFM so thats good but they also got stuff like High5 which is a blend of concentrate,isolate,soy,milk and egg and stuff like Maxpro which is milk,concentrate and isolate,etc... So basically if im gonna get this shit for free should I just double up the dose to get the same quality as stuff from TP and other top notch places. Like if I want 50g i'll take maybe 70 or 80,etc..

He is stealing it and you are using the stolen property? This is why businesses fail......and you are worried about illegal immigrants?

GoneForever · May 11, 2009

^^ No no, he gets lots of samples and dented cans, opened returns, expired product,etc...

GoneForever · May 11, 2009

vadim_b1 said:
its not just about how much protein youre getting per serving

its the presence of impurities, presence of lactose/fat/ash, lactalbumin/lactoglobulin ratio, denatured to undenatured microfractions (lactoferrin/immunoglobulins/glycomacropeptide)

if you want high quality protein, buy it, you cant just add tons of low quality shit to make up.

Thats what I kinda figured. I presume not all designer proteins are bad. Before lba's and trueprotein were out people only had select proteins to use. If I do use some of his hookup samples and stuff i'll prob stick with the CFM and the milk and egg and isolate blends and stay away from the whey concentrate. I've heard max muscle has pretty high quality protein compared to some other compaines like allthewhey and the shit you get at costco and walmart,etc...

SHOTGUN · May 13, 2009

How many BAD protein (actual raw protein) manufacaturer's can any of you name? How many total protein (Whey and Milk) protein manufacturer's are there in the US? Someone tell me how you judge GOOD protein and BAD protein... Please enlighten me.

7_Deadly_Sins · May 13, 2009

fourthgen said:
^^ No no, he gets lots of samples and dented cans, opened returns, expired product,etc...

lol, be careful with the returned ones...I read on a forum about a d-bag who took BCAAs and put flour and returned it..and one who put sugar in creatine and returned it...both people got their money back.

ssdark1 · May 13, 2009

How many BAD protein (actual raw protein) manufacaturer's can any of you name? How many total protein (Whey and Milk) protein manufacturer's are there in the US? Someone tell me how you judge GOOD protein and BAD protein... Please enlighten me.

i judge it by whether or not it digests well.

lol, be careful with the returned ones...I read on a forum about a d-bag who took BCAAs and put flour and returned it..and one who put sugar in creatine and returned it...both people got their money back.

back in the day i worked at gnc, and their policy is that a store must refund the customers $ if they have the reciept and it is within the 30 day period. so , in theory, you could never have to pay for protein again. just buy a $150 tub of isopure, go home empty it all out except a couple of scoops, return it in a couple of weeks and repeat. not that i advocate or have done this...just saying alot of people do.

7_Deadly_Sins · May 13, 2009

ssdark1 said:
i judge it by whether or not it digests well.

back in the day i worked at gnc, and their policy is that a store must refund the customers $ if they have the reciept and it is within the 30 day period. so , in theory, you could never have to pay for protein again. just buy a $150 tub of isopure, go home empty it all out except a couple of scoops, return it in a couple of weeks and repeat. not that i advocate or have done this...just saying alot of people do.

The ones here you gota have like half or they wont do it..atleast if its completely empty..just the managers rules..I'm sure you could bitch and get a refund though.
Pretty fucked up anyway.
I returned some NO2black after I found out it was shit about a year and half ago..only used like 10 pills out of like 240. lol