Shining Red Light on Balls for More Testosterone

[Floxedone]

I was gonna wait tell after I get blood work to confirm this theory but I am hoping writing this first will motivate me to get up off my ass and get the test done sooner.

This post is about using Red light, from an LED or laser to stimulate the testes and increase serum testosterone levels.


I have yet to see any human studies but animal studies show Red Light therapy to increase test levels from 40% percent and more.

Red Light, from laser or LED's has been shown to do many things.


1. Lower inflammation
2. Increase mitochondria function/health.
2. Increase both individual nerve fiber diameter, and small fiber density(as in X amount of fibers per square inch.)

I know, testosterone production is COMPLICATED, just like a car's engine needs Air, spark, and Fuel to produce power, the testicles are only one part of the issue.

I believe that Red light therapy increases testosterone through an immediate stimulation of the testes and a secondary increase in efficiency through an improvement in nerve, vascular, and mitochondria function.

First hand I can say after using Red Light my testes feel full, some times expanded and rock hard, I will be testing soon, hopefully this week to see how my blood looks.



https://www.alliedacademies.org/art...elevatingserum-testosterone-level-in-rats.pdf

Red Light was Safe even at a MEGA dose 360 Joules per cm2.

Infrared light was less effective at low levels and dangerous at High levels.

**broken link removed**

The current theory on light is that a 1 joule per cm2 dose to the target tissue is recommended based on the bell shaped curve of beneficial stimulation.

Red light Penetrates skin on average at about 2-10%.
A standard red light device is power at about 30Mw per cm2.

at this power the math is like this,

30mW= .03 Joules per second per cn2

10 minutes x 60 seconds x .03= 18 joules per cn2 at surface

Given an average penetration of 5%, 18J (.05)=.9 J cn2

This would be a ruff start and of course you could double this power or even triple it as more power would just move the "sweet spot" of stimulation deeper into the tissue with most likely no negative effects.

I will post my lab results ASAP.

God bless. Mike.

 

[Floxedone]

Forgot tags.\

Tags. Red light. Laser. Recovery. Big balls. Super Big Testes.

 

[impulse3k]

Really interesting research. Interested to see how it works for you.

 

[little slice]

for fuck's sake..

 

[Jacky McSwole]

I wish krypton didn't blow up and I could live under their red sun. I'd be like there people's superman.

Seriously though. Add a sleeping bag of red lights to a hyperbaric chamber and sleep naked?

 

[destin]

im a way aheada of ya man
i rave in the nude.

excuse the typos

 

[Floxedone]

for fuck's sake..

This is an exploratory and scientific thread, If you can manage to act like an adult, please do.

I am sure there are MANY people looking to improve virility, sperm mobility, and testicular health WITHOUT having to take a bunch of drugs and HCG.

Why is it so hard for some here to not be Jerks?

 

[Stewie]

I was gonna wait tell after I get blood work to confirm this theory but I am hoping writing this first will motivate me to get up off my ass and get the test done sooner.

This post is about using Red light, from an LED or laser to stimulate the testes and increase serum testosterone levels.


I have yet to see any human studies but animal studies show Red Light therapy to increase test levels from 40% percent and more.

Red Light, from laser or LED's has been shown to do many things.


1. Lower inflammation
2. Increase mitochondria function/health.
2. Increase both individual nerve fiber diameter, and small fiber density(as in X amount of fibers per square inch.)

I know, testosterone production is COMPLICATED, just like a car's engine needs Air, spark, and Fuel to produce power, the testicles are only one part of the issue.

I believe that Red light therapy increases testosterone through an immediate stimulation of the testes and a secondary increase in efficiency through an improvement in nerve, vascular, and mitochondria function.

First hand I can say after using Red Light my testes feel full, some times expanded and rock hard, I will be testing soon, hopefully this week to see how my blood looks.



https://www.alliedacademies.org/art...elevatingserum-testosterone-level-in-rats.pdf

Red Light was Safe even at a MEGA dose 360 Joules per cm2.

Infrared light was less effective at low levels and dangerous at High levels.

**broken link removed**

The current theory on light is that a 1 joule per cm2 dose to the target tissue is recommended based on the bell shaped curve of beneficial stimulation.

Red light Penetrates skin on average at about 2-10%.
A standard red light device is power at about 30Mw per cm2.

at this power the math is like this,

30mW= .03 Joules per second per cn2

10 minutes x 60 seconds x .03= 18 joules per cn2 at surface

Given an average penetration of 5%, 18J (.05)=.9 J cn2

This would be a ruff start and of course you could double this power or even triple it as more power would just move the "sweet spot" of stimulation deeper into the tissue with most likely no negative effects.

I will post my lab results ASAP.

God bless. Mike.

It's an interesting concept, nonetheless. I would question the potential for DNA damage to the sertoli cells? This can be caused by heat-load on the testicals. Just thinking out loud.

My next question would be, If this did work, would it be a transient acute phase response or immutable.

I would suspect the former.

 

[NEMSZ]

This is an exploratory and scientific thread, If you can manage to act like an adult, please do.

I am sure there are MANY people looking to improve virility, sperm mobility, and testicular health WITHOUT having to take a bunch of drugs and HCG.

Why is it so hard for some here to not be Jerks?

I don't think Slice is being a jerk on purpose lol

But admit it bro, this sounds really funny. Having low T problems? Pin some Test and within a day or 2 your serum levels will be through the roof.

Virility issues? Some HCG/HMG will be fine, a couple pokes a week with a slin pin never killed anyone. It's just that simple. How weird would it be to shine a red light on your sack for months at a time..

My dog (German Shepherd, RIP ) did Red Light/LED therapy for his joints/hips, as some of you know bigger dogs suffer with that as they age and yes it helped, but it took months! And it wasn't anything crazy.. The results were mediocre at best.

 

[Floxedone]

It's an interesting concept, nonetheless. I would question the potential for DNA damage to the sertoli cells? This can be caused by heat-load on the testicals. Just thinking out loud.

My next question would be, If this did work, would it be a transient acute phase response or immutable.

I would suspect the former.

"LLLT, phototherapy or photobiomodulation refers to the use of photons at a non-thermal irradiance to alter biological activity. LLLT uses either coherent light sources (lasers) or non-coherent light sources consisting of filtered lamps or light-emitting diodes (LED)"

The FDA requires Red light units to be able to heat the skin to around 104-107 degrees for 5-10 minutes.

The medlight PRO 630 heats calf skin to 108 Degrees after 12 minutes.
The medlight pro puts out over 12 minutes puts out 10 Joules per cm2.

In the Rat study, even MEGA doses of Red light showed no damage, where as in multiple studes Infrared shows damage past 40 J cm2.

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Quantitative and qualitative changes of the seminiferous epithelium induced by Ga. Al. As. (830 nm) laser radiation

"RESULTS: The number of germ cells specially the pachytene spermatocytes and elongated spermatids increased after 28.05 J/cm(2) laser radiation. Ultrastructural features of germ and Sertoli cells in this group were similar to that of control; while laser irradiation at 46.80 J/cm(2) had a destructive effect on the seminiferous epithelium such as dissociation of immature spermatids and evident ultrastructural changes in them.

CONCLUSIONS: The findings confirmed the existence of a biostimulatory threshold of applied laser energy and the importance of determining it for clinical applications. Moreover, it was revealed that low doses of laser light have a biostimulatory effect on the spermatogenesis and may provide benefits to the patients with oligospermia and azoospermia."

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Tons of info on fertility and LLLT.

It seems that all studies done show increase in fertility type stuff and no damage to sperm DNA or to the structure/function of testes.


Back to your question, I would assume that some benefits would be transient while some permanent.

I know my baseline test has been measured like 8 times, blood and saliva, 3 different labs, and all came back 450-550 ng/dL.

I would probably then count anything over 650-ish to be SOME kind of improvement but would ideally like to see a 50% increase to around 825.

I already suffer from Cipro toxicity, and am blind in one eye from an shop accident, so using any kind of drug like clomid is out of the question for me. IF this dose work on humans then it is a cheap, easy, and seemingly safe way to recover or get a boost.

"from the first rat study I posted"
"Figure 4. Testis tissue samples were stained with an H&E dye on day 4. A histopathologic examination was done at a
magnification of 200×. This showed that there were no changes in the cellular morphology following irradiations with a
670-nm diode laser but microhemorrhages occurring in some regions of the interstitial space following those with an
808-nm"

Mike.

 

[Floxedone]

I don't think Slice is being a jerk on purpose lol

But admit it bro, this sounds really funny. Having low T problems? Pin some Test and within a day or 2 your serum levels will be through the roof.

Virility issues? Some HCG/HMG will be fine, a couple pokes a week with a slin pin never killed anyone. It's just that simple. How weird would it be to shine a red light on your sack for months at a time..

My dog (German Shepherd, RIP ) did Red Light/LED therapy for his joints/hips, as some of you know bigger dogs suffer with that as they age and yes it helped, but it took months! And it wasn't anything crazy.. The results were mediocre at best.

Sorry about you dog man! Due to health reasons I can't take clomid, I could take test but would have to take an anti-E which I can't take also. So a small bump like 20-30 naturally would be best.

Red light is just one issue for Joints. Stopping inflammation and MMP enzyme tissue destruction at two huge factors, LED light therapy is just one piece of the puzzle.

I just think it's funny, I have spent years researching LED/laser therapy, have used ALL different kinds of it, even healed my "empty nose sydrome" that I had from a bad surgery, then people treat me like a loon for science based research.

How is shining a light on you balls for 10 minutes a day more crazy than shooting test, tre, taking prami, letro, dbol, viagra, sleep aid, using a cpap, GH, numb hands, etc.

To each his own! Plus studies show that Inrared/red therapy can help ED, erection quality, etc., seems these are ALL complaints people have running juice/trt.

If my blood comes back and test is same I'll be the first to say it didn't work.

 

[jstrong20]

In for results. if it worked I wouldn't mind holding some light on my ball bag. Ha Batteries are a shit load cheaper then the natural test boosters that are sold.

 

[ZOFO1973]

:action-s::action-s::action-s:

C'mon....for real?

 

[jm425]

The LED light is used as a healing source for injuries, not to bring your balls back to life. My father has a lamp in his home and I've used it many times. You risk burning the skin on your nutsack. This thread is ridiculous.

 

[Floxedone]

The LED light is used as a healing source for injuries, not to bring your balls back to life. My father has a lamp in his home and I've used it many times. You risk burning the skin on your nutsack. This thread is ridiculous.

The HUGE amount of human, animal, in-vivo, and in virto studies show it's NOT ridiculous. It shouldn't seem weird that light would be healing or beneficial.

and your dads "lamp" is NOT the same as narrow band Red light.

IF you dads "lamp" is a "heat lamp" than it is a BROAD spectrum INFRARED lamp that has a VERY small amount of light in the 600-900nm healing "window" and a lot of energy in the skin heating window of infraed 1000nm and above that is why

1000nm (infrared) and above is mostly thermal (absorbed) by water.

I am trying to find an uploadable graphic that shows the difference. But it's not my Job to list the thousands of studies showing LED/Lasers' ability to heal bodily systems.

**broken link removed**

 

[Floxedone]

In LLLT low level light therapy, it is known the the photo-stimulation occurs within the optical therapeutic window.

Effects of low-power light therapy on wound healing: LASER x LED
RESULTS
"Sixty-eight studies were analyzed, including 48 on LASER light, 14 related to LED light and 6 for both types of light (Tables 1 to ​to3).3). According to data presented on table 1, 16 of the 48 studies on the effects of LASER light were in vitro and 32 were performed in animals.9-56 The use of different wavelengths (532-1064 nm) was verified, with the most utilized spectral range being between 632.8 and 830 nm. Doses ranging from 0.09 to 90 J/cm2 were used, predominating the values from 1 to 5 J/cm2 . One study did not cite the dose value used.48 The biological effects promoted were reduction of inflammatory cells, increased proliferation of fibroblasts, stimulation of collagen synthesis, angiogenesis inducement and granulation tissue formation. It was noted in a study that the dose of 4 J/cm2 was more effective than 8 J/cm2 .14 Furthermore, doses of 10 and 16 J/cm2 promoted inhibitory effects.20,25,29,34"


As you can see, most of a "heat lamps" energy fall past the therapeutic window and MOST of it's energy is absorbed by water thus making heat the byproduct of the radiant energy and NOT cytochrome c oxidase mediated action from chromophore interaction.

On top of that with a heat lamp you would have to calculate the energy that fall within the "therapeutic window". To do this you would need a fixed measurement and then apply the inverse square law for power at distance used. It would TAKE a very long time to get the PROVEN dose of 1-5 J per cm2 of light withing 600-1000nm with a heat lamp.

A RED light therapy device, LLLT will NOT burn a person while they achieve a therapeutic dose of light. On the other hand a "heat lamp" is NOT a LLLT device.

 

[Floxedone]

As you can see both Lasers and LED's are optimal for healing, as proven by hundreds of studies. Both are good.

LEDs

1. cheap ($100-$600)
2. Narrow band
3. VERY little if any risk of Eye damage
4. Non-coherent light/takes more time for penetration/dosage

Lasers.

1. Expensive ($500-$10,000)
2. SUPER-narrow band of light
3. Coherent, cause "speckling" in tissue that may be more beneficial than LED.
4. Can EASILY damage eyes.
5. shorter treatment times/higher power.

CAUTION- DO NOT PUT A HEAT LAMP ON YOUR BALLS!

 

[ZOFO1973]

CAUTION- DO NOT PUT A HEAT LAMP ON YOUR BALLS![/QUOTE]

Ok, I will gladly take that advice.

 

[Mack]

I hear lighting a match under your balls works much better

but in all seriousness I used red light therapy in a sauna to heal tendon damage and it worked great

 

[raw33man]

I have been setting up Christmas lights on my balls....I hear some people saying Santa put Test Vials under their ballz the next day. I'll let u guys know how it works. A study that was done in Afghanistan said 12 taliban members could then carry heavy machine guns after injecting these Tests made by Santa