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test e vs sleep sickness

biggestisbest

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Hello
im on my 3 week and i have probs with my sleep could it be the test e?
And how does test e affect the immunsystem, im mean do u get sick more easy or not when you r not on cycle??
 
Test can have a negative effect on your immune system...Anytime I start a new cycle I usually have a much harder time sleeping then when I am off. Just one of the sides I guess.
 
thanx for answer man
Do you (or someone else) know why it has negative effect on your immun system.
 
It's unknown to some degree but some studies show that anabolic steroids reduce the abount of serum immune globulin, IgA, IgG, and IgM (1).

I also have sleep disturbances. But they can range from sleeplessness to needing constant sleep (feeling constantly in need of a nap). Not much research there either although androgens are tied to sleep patterns without a doubt.

1. Calabrese LH, Kleiner SM, Barna BP, Skibinski CI, Kirkendall DT, Lahita RG, Lombardo JA. The effects of anabolic steroids and strength training on the human immune response. Med Sci Sports Exercise 1989 Aug;21
 
biggestisbest said:
Hello
im on my 3 week and i have probs with my sleep could it be the test e?
And how does test e affect the immunsystem, im mean do u get sick more easy or not when you r not on cycle??


If never had any problems with the testosterones,,,,are you using high doses?
 
no
im doing very low does trying to improve my stamina this cycle.
Im doing 250 mg test e /week and until recently took about 30-50mg test tabs
before the gym pass 2 a week.
doing running and cycling mostly this period but theb i got sore nipples and started nolva 20 mg / day and quit the tabs...

But now i heard that when you do test you get higher amount of red bloodcells "erytrocter" and the body ajust that by lowering your "leukocyter" white blood cells which is there for your immun system.

But now i wonder if that goes for every steroid or if there is steroids to improve your immmunsystem ?
 
biggestisbest said:
But now i heard that when you do test you get higher amount of red bloodcells "erytrocter" and the body ajust that by lowering your "leukocyter" white blood cells which is there for your immun system.

But now i wonder if that goes for every steroid or if there is steroids to improve your immmunsystem ?
Where did you hear this?
 
Enanthanator said:
Maybe he was referring to EQ?
Hmmm... Possibly. I notice an almost inability to get sick while running high dosed test. Any illness I've experienced (and I have the immune system of a rhino) to be from inadequate levels (like when coming off) or unstable levels (like with sustanon-type products).

I haven't done enough research into this area of androgen replacement therapy but it seems odd that it is indicated to prevent muscle-wasting in people with an already compromised immune-response.

Odd.
 
The "conventional wisdom" I've always heard, and my own experience seems to support, is that your immune system is strengthened when you're on. Sometimes you hear (again "conventional wisdom") that your immune system might drop off a tad sometimes when you go off. Again, I don't remember ever getting a cold or flu or anything while on, but once or twice over the years I've caught a cold or something (never any big deal) after I come off at the end of a cycle. Have no idea if their is any scientific basis for any of this, but like I said it does match my own experience after about 20 years at this.

Also, like OTH says, they prescribe AS all the time for people who are HIV positive, or have other immune system problems, and it seems to be pretty accepted in the medical community that it helps. As for sleep, I think its pretty well known that high dose AS can sometimes cause difficulty sleeping. I don't think it has anything to do with WHAT you are on, test, EQ, Winny, or whatever. I used to have this problem, but as a few years have gone by, don't seem to anymore. Again, no idea what the scientific basis for this is, or if anybody knows. You don't want to get to used to taking something, but I took an ambien at bedtime off and on when it happened, and that seemed to take care of it.
 

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