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Tren=Lowest side effects:Results ratio

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I’m on my first ever run with it, only doing 200mg a week.

I feel and look like a Greek god. It’s amazing. I thought maybe I’d increase the dose after a couple of weeks but I don’t think I need to.

Just wish I could fucking sleep.
 

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I’m on my first ever run with it, only doing 200mg a week.

I feel and look like a Greek god. It’s amazing. I thought maybe I’d increase the dose after a couple of weeks but I don’t think I need to.

Just wish I could fucking sleep.
I cruised on 100 with 100 test for 6 months, loved it.
 

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Reading all this as I stare at bottle of Tren Enanthate while waiting to do routine labwork for my TRT doc in a couple weeks.
 

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I cruised on 100 with 100 test for 6 months, loved it.

Care to share more details? How did you specifically notice? What's your usual cruise or TRT protocol? Did you pull labs while on 100mg test/100mg tren?
 

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I cruised on 100 with 100 test for 6 months, loved it.
Any labwork during that time by chance? If so would be curious if lipids were any issue at that dose.
 

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Not gear per say...but when I ran PCT I used to use blast: 100-150mgs of clomid, some other stuff as well and run it for like five weeks. And I never recovered through how I felt and blood tests. Last cycle I used 25mgs a day and some aromasin twice a week for about 8 weeks. Had blood tests the other day and my test is in the low fives. And the biggest difference is my jizz. Used to be a thimble if I came every other day. Was sleeping with this girl and I jizzed like a few drops. Now...I am cumming like I am 30 again and can do it everyday.
 

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Any labwork during that time by chance? If so would be curious if lipids were any issue at that dose.
yeah I pull bloods quarterly, I work a white collar job and have really good insurance so it’s just laziness if I don’t.

I don’t keep paperwork around but as I recall everything was more or less on point. To be fair, I was going full send on the crossfit thing at the time so I was sleeping 9 hours, eating like a saint, no alcohol.

I think that with moderation in gear use, you can eliminate problems with a clean diet, sleep, recovery, and no recreational substances.

keep in mind though I was like 210 lbs and not super jacked, more like otter mode for athletics. Not a bodybuilder look at all.
 

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I would get better results with less sides (no sides actually) by replacing the tren with 105 mg/week trestolone. Trest is more than twice as strong as tren per mg.
70mg trestolone per week spikes my blood pressure and heart rate like crazy. I have to take 10mg nebivolol and 80mg telmisartan to manage it for the duration I am on it. I'd say those are very strong side effects, even if you can't always "feel them." I also get some intracellular water retention too. Again this is just from 10mg per day (70mg week)

Been too long since I have done any tren so I can't even say how I would react to it anymore
 

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70mg trestolone per week spikes my blood pressure and heart rate like crazy. I have to take 10mg nebivolol and 80mg telmisartan to manage it for the duration I am on it. I'd say those are very strong side effects, even if you can't always "feel them." I also get some intracellular water retention too. Again this is just from 10mg per day (70mg week)

Been too long since I have done any tren so I can't even say how I would react to it anymore
My blood pressure goes down slightly on 10 mg/day trest ace. I got back on this year after a break, and I had to reduce my bp med dose to avoid going too low. The one exception to this happens in times of extreme stress. My bp went through the roof in 2017 when I was going through a breakup. I had to take a break from it for a while.

I wear a watch now that monitors my heart rate 24/7 (except when charging). My resting heart rate is still in the 50s. The average for most days is in the low 60s. I do notice an increase in heart rate and body temp on larger doses like 25 - 30 mg/day.

Have you tried 5 mg? It's surprisingly effective at that dose along with TRT test.
 

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My blood pressure goes down slightly on 10 mg/day trest ace. I got back on this year after a break, and I had to reduce my bp med dose to avoid going too low. The one exception to this happens in times of extreme stress. My bp went through the roof in 2017 when I was going through a breakup. I had to take a break from it for a while.

I wear a watch now that monitors my heart rate 24/7 (except when charging). My resting heart rate is still in the 50s. The average for most days is in the low 60s. I do notice an increase in heart rate and body temp on larger doses like 25 - 30 mg/day.

Have you tried 5 mg? It's surprisingly effective at that dose along with TRT test.
I have tried 5mg alongside TRT and the results weren't quite as good as I had hoped. 10mg seems to be the lowest for me that is worthwhile
 

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Why not try 50-100 mg per week and see how you feel? Start at 50, evaluate then move up a bit, see what your side effect free zone is.
MP said he won a show on 50mg tren 3x per week only if i remember correctly, A lof of older cats over the years have mentioned microdosing it moreso than a 100mg shot
 

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You really think trest is twice as strong as tren per mg?
They don't do the exact same thing, but I do think trest is at least twice as strong. 175 mg/week trest ace feels stronger to me than 350 mg/week tren. Tren is better for looking shredded on cycle. Trest is better for size, strength, muscular endurance, and overall quality of life.
 

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My favorite is mixing small amounts of both Tren and trest with a test base!
I was reading the old threads from Mike Arnold and Dante the other day. Dante said he got noticeable results from 21 mg/week tren.

I was already on 200 mg/week test and 7 mg/day trest. I added tren yesterday at 3 mg/day. I already look a little harder. What surprised me was how strongly I can feel it at such a low dose.

All day the past couple days, I've been fantasizing about lifting and fucking. I had awesome satisfying workouts two days in a row, then aggressive marathon sex with the wife two nights in a row. I think the trest makes me more sensitive to the psychological effects of tren.

Tren always goes badly for me at some point, so I probably won't stick with it. It's been fun though.
 

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