What is it with kids these days...

[gyno]

At the risk of sounding like an old man, which I AM NOT (yet anyways), what is it with kids these days wanting everything spoon fed to them? When I was in my teens through mid twenties, even in my retarded stage (most go through it) I was never like kids are now. I NEVER asked for a hand out. If I wanted something I busted my ass and I went after it. If after I'd exausted all possibilities and still came up short, I would ask to be pointed in the right direction, not beg for the silver spoon. Your not talking to some well to do kid either. I come from a culture and a rung on the ladder of the class system that is known for expecting handouts. I've busted my ass for everything I have, from my house, to my wife, my education, to the 50lbs of muscle (and 10lbs of fat too ) that I've added to my frame since the age of 16 weighing a sopping wet 160.

My daughter will know what it means to earn a living, earn respect, and so forth. She will never beg for advice on bbing boards, she will never need a man to support her (besides, I'll kill most of them that approach the door), and she won't beg for the silver spoon.

 

[deadandgone]

your dad said the same thing about your generation. His dad said the same thing about your dads...

Just keep pumping the N.W.A. and rock out

 

[Chrysler]

I blame effeminate emo kids that spend too much time on myspace.com, World of Warcraft, and Xbox Live. I blame the baby boomer generation that had kids way too late in life and are so disconnected with the current generation that they have no clue how to raise said emo kids. Lastly, I blame the out of control American high fat diet that causes precocious puberty in girls that in turn causes these same girls to become pseudo virgins that give up anal with the confounded idea that they will retain their virginity by giving up said anal all spawned from the innate sense that they shouldn't be boning down in the first place because they're way too young to handle the repercussions of sexual intercourse at such an early age, all because their little girl minds are incongruently juxtaposed with their big girl bodies.

 

[mojo jojo]

What is wrong with the kids today? I think that is the wrong question. The right question is what is wrong with the parents of todays kids? Either the kids learned those traits from their parents or they learned them from someone else because the parents were too busy or lazy to play an active role in their childrens' lives.

Some kids are going to be screw ups despite good parenting but I don't think that is the normal case.

 

[Diesel City]

What is wrong with the kids today? I think that is the wrong question. The right question is what is wrong with the parents of todays kids? Either the kids learned those traits from their parents or they learned them from someone else because the parents were too busy or lazy to play an active role in their childrens' lives.

Some kids are going to be screw ups despite good parenting but I don't think that is the normal case.

AMEN!

 

[Doomed Messiah]

Same here gyno. But when someone asks me for a handout I dont think it would be right to hold that over them as if I am superior in any way. There is always someone who has had it tougher than you and just because you havent asked for a handout YET does not mean you will not ask for one in the future. You can't predict what you and your daughters future will be like because things are always subject to change specially during these times..

 

[mojo jojo]

your dad said the same thing about your generation. His dad said the same thing about your dads...

Just keep pumping the N.W.A. and rock out

I agree with these statements too.

 

[donjoy]

What is wrong with the kids today? I think that is the wrong question. The right question is what is wrong with the parents of todays kids? Either the kids learned those traits from their parents or they learned them from someone else because the parents were too busy or lazy to play an active role in their childrens' lives.

Some kids are going to be screw ups despite good parenting but I don't think that is the normal case.

True that. You reap what you sow. There are plenty of good kids out there. Not to mention that the current generation is not the worst...... modern computer nerd > aging stinky hippie.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

your dad said the same thing about your generation. His dad said the same thing about your dads...

Just keep pumping the N.W.A. and rock out

took the words out of my mouth, there is always something wrong with the current generation in the eyws of older people

 

[kid1dakota]

Problem is there is no discipline at all anymore.I took my daughter to Disney last week and parents just look around oblivious while kids run wild and throw tantrums.There was a kid literally beating the shit out one of the characters while other kids were patiently waiting in line for a photo.The parents just stood and waited til he stopped(on his own) then they snapped a photo.
We give trophys now for PARTICIPATION they don't learn to lose.Everybody must play,so much for busting your ass and earning a position.The military now has TIME OUTS!! were raising a bunch of a spoiled candy ass kids!! I could go on and on.....

 

[Doomed Messiah]

Some people accomplish a few things here and there then become very arrogant. God forbid something happens in Iraq then everything youve worked for and your daughters future will cease to exist..

 

[myosin]

Putting it all together....

Gyno, from what I have read in all your other posts, you seem like a "good man".

I agree with everyone....

1) While each generation says that about the former, each generation does indeed slip more. Detailed below.

2) Parents
A) Helicopter parents- hover over their children never allowing them to fight on their own, learn their own lessons, or become their own person (parents ARE there to guide and correct, but these parents hold their child's hands in everything including into college).

B) Cool parents- wanting to be their child's "friend" only... a guise for, "I am too insecure to discipline my child and fear they will be mad at me"

C) Late-game parents- didn't spend enough time with their kids when infants and toddlers building up their child's respect for them and now lack that respect so even if they do try to discipline the kids later in life the kids don't care

D) Entitlement parents- similar to helicopter parents, they think their kids are entitled to simply anything and everything just because their alive (reality check- no is entitled to anything except life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness).

E) Hands off parents- similar to cool parents, they believe in letting the kids make whatever choices they want. Never mind the fact that science has shown that the male brain does not fully mature until 18 and until then has difficulty making appropriate decisions. Also never mind the fact that your choices do not affect you alone, your choices will almost always (either large or small) affect others (drunk driving, unprotected sex, sex period, etc)

F) Do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do parents- Just as it says. Parents will preach to their kids, but they learn more by observation. Psycho-socially-gender speaking, girls do learn well verbally, BUT, boys especially learn from their Dad's by EXAMPLE (how they deal with stress, conflict, money, etc.)

3) Lack of responsibility- related to #1: the "Greatest generation" was called so because they had gone through the greatest adversity. This adversity gave great character. Now, because everyone thinks they are "entitled" and kids are not given responsibilities, they grow up lacking character.

When did Jerry Springer and Maury Povich become the "norm"?

 

[Thor]

BINGO !!!

Gyno, from what I have read in all your other posts, you seem like a "good man".

I agree with everyone....

1) While each generation says that about the former, each generation does indeed slip more. Detailed below.

2) Parents
A) Helicopter parents- hover over their children never allowing them to fight on their own, learn their own lessons, or become their own person (parents ARE there to guide and correct, but these parents hold their child's hands in everything including into college).

B) Cool parents- wanting to be their child's "friend" only... a guise for, "I am too insecure to discipline my child and fear they will be mad at me"

C) Late-game parents- didn't spend enough time with their kids when infants and toddlers building up their child's respect for them and now lack that respect so even if they do try to discipline the kids later in life the kids don't care

D) Entitlement parents- similar to helicopter parents, they think their kids are entitled to simply anything and everything just because their alive (reality check- no is entitled to anything except life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness).

E) Hands off parents- similar to cool parents, they believe in letting the kids make whatever choices they want. Never mind the fact that science has shown that the male brain does not fully mature until 18 and until then has difficulty making appropriate decisions. Also never mind the fact that your choices do not affect you alone, your choices will almost always (either large or small) affect others (drunk driving, unprotected sex, sex period, etc)

3) Lack of responsibility- related to #1: the "Greatest generation" was called so because they had gone through the greatest adversity. This adversity gave great character. Now, because everyone thinks they are "entitled" and kids are not given responsibilities, they grow up lacking character.

When did Jerry Springer and Maury Povich become the "norm"?

All the other answers are good and all make good points but THIS says it all!
Parents these days are NOT parenting!

 

[gyno]

Same here gyno. But when someone asks me for a handout I dont think it would be right to hold that over them as if I am superior in any way. There is always someone who has had it tougher than you and just because you havent asked for a handout YET does not mean you will not ask for one in the future. You can't predict what you and your daughters future will be like because things are always subject to change specially during these times..

agreed, BUT, there is a difference between asking for a handout and ALWAYS asking for them, ALWAYS licking the silver spoon.

 

[gyno]

Some people accomplish a few things here and there then become very arrogant. God forbid something happens in Iraq then everything youve worked for and your daughters future will cease to exist..

If you're referring to me, I think you're way off. I'm not being arrogant. I'm proud of the fact that life hands me beat down after beatdown (as it does all of us) and rather than victimizing myself I stand up. Theres been plenty of times when I could have taken the easy route, but I chose not to. Not being arrogant at all...it's just a fact that taking the easy route ALMOST always ends up being much more difficult

Also, if is something happens over here, my daughter and wife are more than well equipped. From the 400,000 they would get if I died (army money) to the life lessons I've taught them both. Conversely, they have taught me some very valuable lessons as well.

 

[myosin]

The "source" of growth...

If you're referring to me, I think you're way off. I'm not being arrogant. I'm proud of the fact that life hands me beat down after beatdown (as it does all of us) and rather than victimizing myself I stand up. Theres been plenty of times when I could have taken the easy route, but I chose not to. Not being arrogant at all...it's just a fact that taking the easy route ALMOST always ends up being much more difficult

Also, if is something happens over here, my daughter and wife are more than well equipped. From the 400,000 they would get if I died (army money) to the life lessons I've taught them both. Conversely, they have taught me some very valuable lessons as well.

Find me the "strongest" man there is and you will also find he went through the greatest trials.

 

[violentmessiah]

Lack of discipline

and many parents who are too self-absorbed to spend the time teaching their children values while they lead by example with whatever issues they haven't resolved in themselves.
Lack of discipline
Lack of values/principles
Lack of respect
All I know is there are a bunch of lazy impolite kids out there today....but there are also some really pleasant well mannered kids as well....
Many adults act the same way the kids do, they just get away with it more easily.... how many of you have seen a grown man walk through a door that a lady has opened for herself to walk through without offering to grab the door and hold it for her or even saying thank you to her (while she's not opening it for him)? I have, numerous times, and it pisses me off.

 

[LEX]

every kid I know except maybe one or two that were given everything all turned out to be big piles of shit....I just simply care about my kids too much to hand them anything.......its that simple.

 

[dragonfire101]

Many family dynamics are not intact as they where say 30-40 years ago, which then create a different value system. I'm talking about sitting down together as a family to eat dinner, playing ball with your kid going to their game or concerts etc. Going to church on Sunday even if you really don't practice every function of a particular faith it teaches children responsibility as a family and reinforces certain values just to go. You have almost a single parent household with both parents in it and the children splitting parents since they are both not on the same page because there both off working different shifts hrs etc. and trying to keep their sanity.

I think many persons of the last generation who are now parents in their mid 20s to late 30s have a false sense of entitlement and this is being observed even more in this generation of children 0-18, which these children think they can do whatever they want. Couple that with all these child protection laws parents are scared to even attempt discipline their children in fear they will run to family services because kids are now taught in school to report anything they feel there parents may be doing wrong to them even if its not neglectful at all a child now uses this to get their way and be manipulative. After a certain age children now know they have a certain amount of control and can be manipulative to get what they want if family dynamics are not constantly maintained and values reinforced at a young age.

 

[jm425]

I blame effeminate emo kids that spend too much time on myspace.com, World of Warcraft, and Xbox Live. I blame the baby boomer generation that had kids way too late in life and are so disconnected with the current generation that they have no clue how to raise said emo kids. Lastly, I blame the out of control American high fat diet that causes precocious puberty in girls that in turn causes these same girls to become pseudo virgins that give up anal with the confounded idea that they will retain their virginity by giving up said anal all spawned from the innate sense that they shouldn't be boning down in the first place because they're way too young to handle the repercussions of sexual intercourse at such an early age, all because their little girl minds are incongruently juxtaposed with their big girl bodies.

Amen to that. I especially dislike emos. All the ones I've run across are whiny and lazy idiots.