Winter bulking cycle proposal.

[DADDY MAC]

I'm 30, 6'2, 242lbs and about 15%BF right now.
4 cycles under my belt.....


Drol
week 1- 50mg ED
week 2- 100mg ED
week 3- 150mg ED
week 4- 150mg ED
week 5- 100mg ED
week 6- 50mg ED

I'm pyramiding the drol because I know my body cant handle 150mg for even 4 weeks so I am going to try this method of tapering and see if it helps..

Deca weeks 1-14 @ 1g

Supertest week 1-16@900mg
or
Omnadren week 1-16@1g

Tren A - 75mg EOD weeks 8-14 (I want to take when test and deca are fully working because it will be mainly for strength)

I was almost going to opt for Tren E to keep injections on the same days........but I have 40ml of Acetate just staring at me everynight begging to be used...lol

*My goals are to add about another 10-12 lbs of LBM then I'm calling it quits on mass building for awhile.

I'm going to be taking in around 650g protein daily, Im trying to go big or broke here.

My PCT will be Nolva/Clomid....still working on what dosages shall be enough.

I have various ancillaries on hand....


I'm well aware of the amounts Im taking, but have filled my doc in and can get a script for ANYTHING if something goes wrong.
I will be having bi-weekly check ups with him throughout entire cycle as well..... (hbp runs in the family).....

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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[MightyJohn]

Thats a pretty hefty cycle & I'm not one to tell You to cut back...although the deca looks HIGH & tren stacked ontop of deca usually causes a bit of sides for most

 

[DADDY MAC]

Thats a pretty hefty cycle & I'm not one to tell You to cut back...although the deca looks HIGH & tren stacked ontop of deca usually causes a bit of sides for most

Thanks for the reply. I've ran both together for about 6 weeks before with no problems. Not at this dosage though. I've been thinking about even possibly dropping the tren all together and throw in var in it's place. Deca makes me grow like no other, hands down. I did 800mgs last cycle so I feel a gram I can handle.

I have caber and letro on hand in case of prolactin issues from deca/tren

 

[MightyJohn]

Anytime Bro...Me personally & alot of people I know just don't tolerate deca well...sides, emotions, decadick etc.....I just stay away from it but if it works well for You, more power to You

 

[pesty4077]

I'm 30, 6'2, 242lbs and about 15%BF right now.
4 cycles under my belt.....


Drol
week 1- 50mg ED
week 2- 100mg ED
week 3- 150mg ED
week 4- 150mg ED
week 5- 100mg ED
week 6- 50mg ED

I'm pyramiding the drol because I know my body cant handle 150mg for even 4 weeks so I am going to try this method of tapering and see if it helps..

Deca weeks 1-14 @ 1g

Supertest week 1-16@900mg
or
Omnadren week 1-16@1g

Tren A - 75mg EOD weeks 8-14 (I want to take when test and deca are fully working because it will be mainly for strength)

I was almost going to opt for Tren E to keep injections on the same days........but I have 40ml of Acetate just staring at me everynight begging to be used...lol

*My goals are to add about another 10-12 lbs of LBM then I'm calling it quits on mass building for awhile.

I'm going to be taking in around 650g protein daily, Im trying to go big or broke here.

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  My PCT will be Nolva/Clomid....still working on what dosages shall be enough.
  
  I have various ancillaries on hand....
  
  
  I'm well aware of the amounts Im taking, but have filled my doc in and can get a script for ANYTHING if something goes wrong.
  I will be having bi-weekly check ups with him throughout entire cycle as well..... (hbp runs in the family).....Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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  WOW! 1 question and I already know the answer: Are you a Pro? Because at 3 grams of gear a week, you must be. I highlighted a few things to show you how foolish you sound. 6'2" at 242 and 15%Bf, that would give you a lean body mass of 205. To be 10% you would weigh only 228, nothing spectacular for those amounts. 650G of protein? I personally like to see this diet. High blood pressure runs in your family? Your are running things that would be you at a hospital with your blood pressure. What really makes me wonder if you think at all, is your 4th cycle? By your 10th cycle, we probally won't hear from you again. Your problem is your lack of disicpline and diet. This is a marathon not a sprint. Don't mind me venting, sometimes at my age, I wander in my mind. My problem is I give a crap about some people making foolish mistakes, when it comes to health!!

 

[RV63T]

bro im no pro but thats a lot of SHIT. and like pesty said unless your a pro thats alot. most i have done is 800mg test 450mg deca and i got sides i didnt want nor had been geting with 500mg test 400mg deca. just be safe be carefull think it threw very good and have plenty of ancallerys on hand. if you just gota i think i would leave the tren out. and lower the deca dont know you get that much more after 400/500mg.

 

[DADDY MAC]

WOW! 1 question and I already know the answer: Are you a Pro? Because at 3 grams of gear a week, you must be. I highlighted a few things to show you how foolish you sound. 6'2" at 242 and 15%Bf, that would give you a lean body mass of 205. To be 10% you would weigh only 228, nothing spectacular for those amounts. 650G of protein? I personally like to see this diet. High blood pressure runs in your family? Your are running things that would be you at a hospital with your blood pressure. What really makes me wonder if you think at all, is your 4th cycle? By your 10th cycle, we probally won't hear from you again. Your problem is your lack of disicpline and diet. This is a marathon not a sprint. Don't mind me venting, sometimes at my age, I wander in my mind. My problem is I give a crap about some people making foolish mistakes, when it comes to health!!

First off, Im no pro, nor do i want to be a pro.

Second off, I realize this is a large amount of gear thats why my DOCTOR IS INFORMED and I will be having bi-weekly checks.

Thirdly, this will be my 5th cycle. I've done my research throughly and have had very good past cycles. My previous cycle before 900mg test, 600mg deca, 250mg tren, 30mg dbol ed for 6 weeks with no probelms except when I incorporated tren with the deca my left nipple got itchy. treated will caber agressively and voila! Not a problem since,

Fourthly, my diet and disclipine are just fine...Some shit arose in my life, took time off (lost weight) hence the 245 or so...and the BF is a guess. I can see my top 2 abs clear and barely the second set.

Fifthly I left some things out.

I will be running adex at .25mg throughout
Also, HCG 500iu E5D
Also, caber 30mg twice a week to keep prolactin levels down from tren/deca.
also have liver aid (synthetek) that I will be taking.

the only thing i am even remotely worried about is the dose of drol and duration..........running tren along with deca.

Ancillaries on hand--Caber, Nolva, Prami, Letro, Adex


And as far as the 650g diet...You ever heard of supplementation? On cycle, I can put down 3-4 100g protein shakes like it isn;t shit. the rest I can get from food. I know it should be the other way around, but thatd be a shit ton of food which I think you were referring to by making that comment.

 

[heavyiron]

WOW! 1 question and I already know the answer: Are you a Pro? Because at 3 grams of gear a week, you must be. I highlighted a few things to show you how foolish you sound. 6'2" at 242 and 15%Bf, that would give you a lean body mass of 205. To be 10% you would weigh only 228, nothing spectacular for those amounts. 650G of protein? I personally like to see this diet. High blood pressure runs in your family? Your are running things that would be you at a hospital with your blood pressure. What really makes me wonder if you think at all, is your 4th cycle? By your 10th cycle, we probally won't hear from you again. Your problem is your lack of disicpline and diet. This is a marathon not a sprint. Don't mind me venting, sometimes at my age, I wander in my mind. My problem is I give a crap about some people making foolish mistakes, when it comes to health!!

Quoted for reading enjoyment =)

 

[RV63T]

so what exactly is your question? or did you just want to put your cycle out there for every one to see? you will only get solid advice on this board from some of the finest guys which are pros or very close to it. not trying to flame you here bro. you seem set on it just be safe bro.

 

[DADDY MAC]

so what exactly is your question? or did you just want to put your cycle out there for every one to see? you will only get solid advice on this board from some of the finest guys which are pros or very close to it. not trying to flame you here bro. you seem set on it just be safe bro.

I would like to hear some feedback from guys that have used this much gear.
i respect everyones opinion, but i would like ultimately someones opinion that has taken close to these amounts.

I know there are alot of pros on this board, and i know alot of pros use alot of gear ( i know a few guys in MY gym that use 3-5grams a week for LONG cycles...

I am not dead set on this cycle at all, just want opinions...Positive and negative

 

[heavyiron]

I would like to hear some feedback from guys that have used this much gear.
i respect everyones opinion, but i would like ultimately someones opinion that has taken close to these amounts.

I know there are alot of pros on this board, and i know alot of pros use alot of gear ( i know a few guys in MY gym that use 3-5grams a week for LONG cycles...

I am not dead set on this cycle at all, just want opinions...Positive and negative

I am not a pro but I have run some pretty heavy stuff.

I would cut the deca in half to be honest with you and keep the oral at 100mg daily max. I like the placement of the Tren later in the cycle.

 

[RV63T]

vey well thats cool. like i said 800 test 450 deca is as much as i have done and it just brought sides i normaly didnt get. and didnt yeild that much better results for me. im sure there are guys here that use 3+ grams week. now will they fess up to it.

 

[Pain]

I would like to hear some feedback from guys that have used this much gear.
i respect everyones opinion, but i would like ultimately someones opinion that has taken close to these amounts.

I know there are alot of pros on this board, and i know alot of pros use alot of gear ( i know a few guys in MY gym that use 3-5grams a week for LONG cycles...

I am not dead set on this cycle at all, just want opinions...Positive and negative

Cut back the drol both in dosage and in time. Peak at 100 like Heavyiron said, and run it for four weeks. Also no real need to run your tren more than the last four weeks, your liver will thank you. You would also be uber-taxing your liver with that much protein, supplemented or otherwise. You'll be more than fine with 500g/daily. Your deca dosage is off the charts, and for no real reason. You are not a guy walking around with 270lbs of lbm. Your receptors will be saturated with 600-700 mg, and even that is a lot.
As was mentioned above, you want to be around for you 25th cycle, much less your 6th.

 

[Liphted]

Honestly I laughed, then I was in disbelief. You only hope to add 10-12 lbs of LBM running all that shit?
If you used to be so big and lost so much weight you should be able to add 10-12 lbs back to your frame naturally.
And my god your 5th cycle... really? Where do you plan on going from here? No honestly, where? A genetic
predisposition to high blood pressure and how much drol and tren are you running again? Who gives a shit
if you're seeing a doctor regularly, he can't keep you from killing yourself in a slowish manner. At 15% bf
the last thing you need to be thinking about is bulking. After this "bulk" what are you gonna be at, 20% bf?
You seem to be just very confused about all of this after reading your post. 650 grams of protein, well I think
that's just neat. What about your other macros? Why do you think that's the key to going "big or broke"?

Honest truth, your post screams I'm lazy and make up for it by using high doses of drugs. You could cut
everything in half, drop bodyfat, and add 10-12 lbs easy if you would post up your diet and workout plan
and have people critique that instead of comment on your "bulking" cycle. All while instantly having
enough left over gear (and HEALTH) to run a 6th cycle. Ahh but that's just too easy, just doesn't make any sense.

 

[DADDY MAC]

Honestly I laughed, then I was in disbelief. You only hope to add 10-12 lbs of LBM running all that shit?
If you used to be so big and lost so much weight you should be able to add 10-12 lbs back to your frame naturally.
And my god your 5th cycle... really? Where do you plan on going from here? No honestly, where? A genetic
predisposition to high blood pressure and how much drol and tren are you running again? Who gives a shit
if you're seeing a doctor regularly, he can't keep you from killing yourself in a slowish manner. At 15% bf
the last thing you need to be thinking about is bulking. After this "bulk" what are you gonna be at, 20% bf?
You seem to be just very confused about all of this after reading your post. 650 grams of protein, well I think
that's just neat. What about your other macros? Why do you think that's the key to going "big or broke"?

Honest truth, your post screams I'm lazy and make up for it by using high doses of drugs. You could cut
everything in half, drop bodyfat, and add 10-12 lbs easy if you would post up your diet and workout plan
and have people critique that instead of comment on your "bulking" cycle. All while instantly having
enough left over gear (and HEALTH) to run a 6th cycle. Ahh but that's just too easy, just doesn't make any sense.

The reason I never post here is because this board is full of know it alls...
I could give 2 shits what you think or how u say im taking the "easy" way out. Im not in a big dick challenge so piss off. You have no idea how my body responds to any chemicals so why talk shit.

Let me share a piece of knowledge, son....

There is such a thing called blitz cycles.....here is an example

Test Enanthate:300-600 mgs/ed day
Tren Acetate: 125 mgs/ed
Deca Durabolin: 300 mgs/ed
Equipoise: 400 mgs/eod
D-bol:75 mgs/ed/or Anadrol 150 mgs/ed
Insulin:20-40 i.u./5 days on-2 days off
GH: 9-12 ius/5 days on-2 days off
Cytomel: 25-50 mcgs-AM/2 days on-2 days off/"optional"

And you think my doses are so "OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH"???

I know what works for MY body, I posted this cycle to see if there are any other precations that Im not taking. As far as this cycle goes, this may end up being my last bulking cycle, period.

I agree my doses are high compared to a 500mg test and 400mg deca cycle....But my body responded better when I took 900mg test, 600mg deca, 250mg tren, and the dbol...

My cycle, minus the tren, isnt much more. I agree the drol dosage may be high so Im going to stick at just 100mg.

So lets see here
Drol- weeks 1-4 700mg/week
Deca-weeks 1-14 800mg week
Test weeks 1-16 1g week

After the drol is over that leaves 1.8grams off AAS per week.
You have to be fucking kidding me if you dont think there is PLENTY of people on this board that run much higher dosages than that. I know a few

I respect your opinion, but it sounds like you've never taken a high dose so I want other opinions besides yours