I remember somebody brought ultimate orange back to the uk in the 90’s, enough for most of the gym to buy! Tasted like pure evil. Everybody was used to ephedrine tablets but that ultimate orange blew my head right off. Never had anything before or after like it (iirc it was a Dan ducahine product)I remeber that shit I was young and stupid and used it too it was called Ultimate Orange (fuck that was like late 90s early 2000s) wouldn’t touch that shit now if you paid me. I like stim free pump PWs though. Or just a bunch of arginine and vita C.