you are right....this aint about race
With all due respect dude, your answer is a massive cop out. I dont say that to pick an argument, so pls dont take it as a disrespect. Your argument style is used by many when challenged to back up their assertions.
Take the 4 minute mile
Imagine the year is 1957. Imagine I had witnessed it being done yesterday. I come back to the net(or mail box) and say what I saw. Everyone calls bullshit and says " It cant physically be done"
WOULD IT NOT BE FAIR FOR ME TO ASK, WHAT THE FASTEST SPEED PEOPLE CONSIDER FOR A HUMAN? :banghead:
Would you say "Well I dont know what speed a human is capable of but I know it aint under 4 minutes per mile"!!!!!!
Well on what do you base your assertions? If several others say they have witnessed the same up and down America including others in the know, would you not give the benefit of the doubt???
I AM NOT HUNG UP OF SEEING THE PICTURE OF JUST ANY NATURAL PHYSIQUE!!!!!
I AM HUNG ON SEEING THE PICTURE OF THE NATURAL PHYSIQUE CONSIDERED TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD. If you can put up a picture for ridicule, why cant you put up a picture of what you consider to be the the very best a natural can acheive? Is it because you dont want to be held to it??
If you have no idea, why not just say so.
You state you can tell by look what an enhanced vs natural looks like?? well dont you think someone like Shelby can tell as well? Shelby didnt get a picture of just anyone, its his training partner
But answer me something yet again
Do you honestly beleive you have seen the best natural bodybuilders in the world?........Do you really beleive you have seen the absolute best natural physiques any gym in America can produce or even top 100 physiques that can be produced.?... Once again, can you provide even
one picture of a representation of this look?
if the answer is no, without trying to ridicule me......If you dont know what the best natural can looks like, if you dont know whats possible, how do you know what is impossible?
Tell you what...... You post makes me really appreciate Dante trudel. Before reading his material, I beleived in limitations where muscle gain is concerned, and he made me beleive in the impossible if you are willing to pay your dues. Even funnier or ironically still, Shelby trains DC style and Shelby is training this dude.