10 mg

[buck]

I got labs again and doses 10 mgs sub q ten hours before

Yes it's scripted test pfizer

Total test 245

I know I'm a fast metabolizer of test though gh my many years of labs and intra muscular dosing, I e figured out I'm protocol best for my body

This is my third sub q test

First did 10 mgs day before so about a 24 hour period and came back low 200s

Second did 10 mgs the day before than 10 mgs a couple hours, about 2 or 3 before labs were drawn and came back at low 200s, so goes to show me it takes more than 2 to 3 hours for sub q to raise test for me

And now 10 mgs ten hours in and test comes back at 245

How many weeks had you been following the protocol before being tested?
Numerous studies show that sub-q is effective for the average person. If some one where to not have good results it would seem to mean that they were the odd man out and not the average.

Microdosing TRT – The Future of Testosterone Replacement Therapy - The Men’s Health Clinic

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[Love_to_Bodybuild]

How many weeks had you been following the protocol before being tested?
Numerous studies show that sub-q is effective for the average person. If some one where to not have good results it would seem to mean that they were the odd man out and not the average.

Microdosing TRT – The Future of Testosterone Replacement Therapy - The Men’s Health Clinic

Microdosing is the most effective way to mimic natural Testosterone levels and minimise side effects. We explain why in this article.

themenshealthclinic.co.uk

Two months before

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

Thats because honestly that shit just doesn’t work as well as IM I’d say for most people from what I gathered... I’ve seen many more people with results like yours from 10mg per day sub q than Emeric’s. And I’ve seen people with very low scores for their dosage (ie: 500 on 150mg sub q) all around more so then I see anything else...

I know Emeric and Kaladryn for example say and show they have the same scores/dosage and Kal was explaining to me that there’s no difference (at least there shouldn’t be) going from IM inject to subq that your body will still absorb it etc...

Well I tried that ED SubQ and so did my pops with prescribed Pharma Test. He scored like a 270 on 10mg per day subq and said he felt terrible. On 1 100mg shot or 2 50mg shots he’s in the 800’s and feels great. I never got blood work but I felt the same, with IM shots @ 100mg I’m in the 800’s as well, and I was taking 150mg spread out ED Subq and I felt like I wasn’t on anything, for those couple weeks I literally felt dragging ass, depression, no libido etc.. As soon as I started IM again twice per week I was a changed man.. lol

I absorb oil really funky too by subq. I will never do it again. I do 20mg test prop ED though, IM. I can inject .2cc literally anywhere and don’t feel anything because the depot is so small/absorbs so fast.

Subq is shit for me.

 

[Needmassquick]

I tried Subq for lowering estrogen and that didn't work at all. I do do 10mg per day IM though and my levels are around 500

 

[Astudent]

Week 1. 10mg per day (2 x 5mg)
Week 2. 15mg per day
Week 3. 20mg per day
Wekk 4. 25mg per day
Week 5. 20mg per day
Week 6, 15mg per day
Week 7. 10mg per day
Week 8. 5mg per day

Take off 3 weeks than start over agent.

You must take liver protection supplement all the time when you on orals. I would take the Carsil.

@emeric delczeg what are the benefits of taking dianabol this way?

 

[SlickNYC]

100mg per week puts me at 800 - I would have to imaging 70mg would be around 560 which is not desirable.


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What ester and how often do you inject?

 

[maldorf]

@emeric delczeg what are the benefits of taking dianabol this way?

Thats how we did it back in the 80s. Worked for me, but it was the first time I ever used steroids and I was young and relatively new to weights.

 

[emeric delczeg]

@emeric delczeg what are the benefits of taking dianabol this way?

It will help to restore androgen sensitivity.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

It will help to restore androgen sensitivity.

Do you keep testosterone in at 10-20mg a day during that?

Thanks Emeric

Never mind I scrolled back 4 pages and see your answer

 

[Ironman 580]

I can’t conceive sticking a needle in my body for 10 mg test- complete waste - it’s like eating 1 grain of rice - o can’t comprehend any of these rediculous methods

 

[buck]

I can’t conceive sticking a needle in my body for 10 mg test- complete waste - it’s like eating 1 grain of rice - o can’t comprehend any of these rediculous methods

I guess you would prefer to sit down and eat all your rice at 1 sitting for the week to be sensible.

 

[Ironman 580]

Different comparison - 10mg test daily is a waste for bodybuilders

 

[Reload]

Different comparison - 10mg test daily is a waste for bodybuilders

Testosterone is a very powerful hormone and should be respected!
If your goal is to look like Nick Walker then your correct, 10mg is not going to get you there.lol
If your an older guy like myself that actually cares about his organ function/lab values/mental health after years of abusing AAS,
this 10mg approach allows you to maintain a decent amount of muscle and keep the ol' lady happy in the bedroom.

Unless your personal goal is health & longevity Ironman 580, you'd be better off just leaving this thread alone
until your ready...maybe 20-30 years down the road.

 

[Ironman 580]

I apologize - maybe u are correct - I can never look like him but I didn’t realize it’s just a well being libido type of dose - sorry man

 

[Reload]

I apologize - maybe u are correct - I can never look like him but I didn’t realize it’s just a well being libido type of dose - sorry man

All good.
Keep the idea in the back of your head that one day you WILL need to take your foot off the gas

 

[Sides]

All good.
Keep the idea in the back of your head that one day you WILL need to take your foot off the gas

Or not. But if you keep the pedal down to the floor, it does hasten the end of the road.

 

[buck]

Different comparison - 10mg test daily is a waste for bodybuilders

Opinions differ.

 

[emeric delczeg]

Different comparison - 10mg test daily is a waste for bodybuilders

Even for very advanced bbs is very effective when used after blasting.

 

[sub7percent]

What ester and how often do you inject?

C 3x per week

 

[pars]

Hey bro, sorry to hear about your situation but thanks for having the courage to share, I’m sure it’ll reach some people and help some guys on here..

Just wanted to ask a little bit more about it if you don’t mind sharing?

I see you are fairly young for your situation (52 right?) and that can very well be a genetic issue, but you only said what you were doing for 5 years prior to that. So from 47-52 you were on basically TRT doses and eating healthy... But what about before that?

I’m not trying to come off “challenging” you or anything negative but if for example you were blasting and cruising high doses of AAS from 20-47 years old and weighing 250lbs+ at 5’8 etc then I mean, kinda brings down the chances of it being genetic as much as it pains some people (especially on here) to hear that...

Either way, it’s not to ridicule you at all but I think regardless of the answer it still helps guys on here get a better picture health wise when guys are open about their situations.. Maldorf unknowingly helped me a couple years ago just by sharing his situation on here and I’m glad he did...

Were your blockages plaque buildup or was it blood clots?

I was just re-reading this thread and saw that I did not reply to your questions- must have missed it the first time- sorry!

I never took anything prior to starting TRT around 47 years old- always trained but never took anything stronger than protein powder. I don’t think my issues were a result of the testosterone but who knows? I did spend my early 20’s drinking too much beer so that probably didn’t help

I did hit an all time high body weight of 250 around age 24. Lots of powerlifting, food and beer. Diet was pretty much whatever was in reach and not nailed down back then. Lost weight around 25-26 dropped about 40lbs and leaned out big time ( still natural )

Trained off an on during my 30s - busy with my wife, daughter , house, career. Made to mid 40s before I started to feel run down and no energy. Test was measured at 205 which is why I started TRT.

Scariest part of the heart attac was I had n signs or symptoms until a week or so before. I was doing cardio and got super short of breath after about 5 minutes- very unusual for me as I do a lot of cardio. I just figured I was coming down with a cold or something and shrugged it off. A week later it happened again except I couldn’t catch my breath and my chest felt very tight/heavy like somebody parked a truck on it. Went to the hospital BP was sky high (210/160) angiogram next day showed all the blockages. Quad bypass surgery 2 days later. I was in for 9 days total and dropped 20 lbs during that time. I couldn’t even walk to the end of my driveway at first without being short of breath afterwards- lots of pain and took awhile to rebuild my endurance. I turned the corner after 6 weeks and started cardiac rehab at 8 weeks. I did the cardiac rehab for 3 months and then was cleared to go back to work.

I now have to take a BP med, a daily aspirin, Plavix, I was on warfarin but that was discontinued. I also am suppose to take a statin but I stopped it because of the potential side effects.

I also am doing 10-12 mg test ED and 5 mg daily cialis-

Blockages were plaque buildup- No blood clots at all that I’m aware of

My only advice for everyone is to stay on top of your bloodwork, blood pressure, and get yearly checkups.

pars