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Taeian clark is the reason youve only done one or two cycles in the last four years because of health markers being out of range, Cholesterol, kidney , liver enzymes ?
No everything has always been grossly unremarkable. When I was younger I loved it I was excited. Then past many few years has just been more daunting. And once off and am recovered I just feel so great. I mean gear never made me feel bad.. besides test mentally.. but being off and recovered everything just feels so right and balanced mentally physically etc in all areas.Taeian clark is the reason youve only done one or two cycles in the last four years because of health markers being out of range, Cholesterol, kidney , liver enzymes ?
No everything has always been grossly unremarkable. When I was younger I loved it I was excited. Then past many few years has just been more daunting. And once off and am recovered I just feel so great. I mean gear never made me feel bad.. besides test mentally.. but being off and recovered everything just feels so right and balanced mentally physically etc in all areas.
Opposite of how I use to feel ten yrs ago. Loved feeling or being on.
No everything has always been grossly unremarkable. When I was younger I loved it I was excited. Then past many few years has just been more daunting. And once off and am recovered I just feel so great. I mean gear never made me feel bad.. besides test mentally.. but being off and recovered everything just feels so right and balanced mentally physically etc in all areas.
Opposite of how I use to feel ten yrs ago. Loved feeling or being on.
In his defense he NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about his website, people in this thread did.C'mon.... This is a troll attempting at creating traffic to his garbage site. Just leave it.
Those foolish enough to follow this kind of behavior will get what they deserve.
In his defense he NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about his website, people in this thread did.
If we are going to rip people apart let's at least be fair about it and not make shit up.
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And elite powerlifter Chris Duffin who I also told him to use the supplement carnitine, and out of nowhere his weight had shot up 7lbs after it had been stagnant for a long time and also saw an immense boost to strength as well. So even on top athletes the simple addition of carnitine lead to mind-blowing effects.
ester length must surely be a factor, no? Like if you're running a ton of EQ or something like that your levels are still building after 6 weeks.
Dean St Mart did a podcast on Think Big Bodybuilding and, if I understood correctly (which is 50/50), he was talking about how it's the levels building that does the fun stuff.
I went off for a 3 year period and a about 10 year period. Both times it took about a year to fully recover. I started using at 27 so my HPTA was already imprinted. You started much younger so not sure what kind of recovery you can make. If you recover then great. You'll know you are over it when you look at juicers and think it's just greesy kids stuff. Stay tuned though b/c between 45 and 50 you may want a boost again like I did.Tbh doubt ill be on till then. The last hell.. 4 plus years I've been lucky to do a cycle or 2. Only reason I am thinking to get back on is to get a little bigger for more credibility in the eyes of well.. morons really.
The 3-4 week off period is not to recover HPTA. It is to reduce toxicity and return major health markers. Try it and do bloodwork. Eventually you can still end up burning out but it worked for me. This "full recovery" brologic will stifle your view until you investigate for yourself. Like I have said in many threads, both times I decided to go off to recover and get on with my life it took over a year to fully recover including my HPTA. Pnce I did it in 6 months. After even cycling with time on = time off it's likely going to take more time than expected to fully recover. That doesn't mean it's an either or scenario. There are more ways on earth to play the game using observation, the notebook, reading of quality literature, blodwork and regular health check-ups.Regarding the thread I see guys stating they done short cycles and had issues and well that's obvious because they never had any breaks. I have known a few guys over the years to do the likes of 6 on 3-4 off and repeat. Maybe even 8 on and 3-4 off. Some guys even do 2 off. Fact is once long esters are built up they could take up to 6 weeks to leave your system. Now some may use long esters for the first few weeks then go onto short esters but even so they could still take approx 2 weeks to fully go. Even if you done it so they were gone after 1 week if you are only having a few weeks off it's no real recovery. You are essentially staying on all year and whilst the gains will be great it's a slippery slope in regards to health. No shit doing multiple short cycles with minimal breaks will work.
The 3-4 week off period is not to recover HPTA. It is to reduce toxicity and return major health markers. Try it and do bloodwork. Eventually you can still end up burning out but it worked for me. This "full recovery" brologic will stifle your view until you investigate for yourself. Like I have said in many threads, both times I decided to go off to recover and get on with my life it took over a year to fully recover including my HPTA. Pnce I did it in 6 months. After even cycling with time on = time off it's likely going to take more time than expected to fully recover. That doesn't mean it's an either or scenario. There are more ways on earth to play the game using observation, the notebook, reading of quality literature, blodwork and regular health check-ups.
Appreciate kind words much.
So you blast 6 weeks then go off/cruise for 4 and go back on?I'd say if cholestrol gets too out of range to take lipitor while blasting
Otherwise yes the four weeks off after five or six weeks is better and one can maintain their muscle in true trt doses easily in these four weeks
Time off is the best to get lipids in check although since many of love being very muscular, it's best to nip the issue off at the bud, before it begins
For a clear mind, just think logically - how many training units per muscle group are we able to do in 6 weeks? especially when it comes to advanced lifters 6-10? how much hypertrophy will occur after one training unit? after all, these are not the amounts that will give us a phenomenal increase. Moreover, everyone who trains longer knows that in order to maintain new gains, the body must enter a certain type of homeostasis and accept fiber overgrowth, otherwise we will quickly lose what we have gained, so even if after 6 weeks there was only anti-catabolism without anabolism, it is still beneficial was to use this period as a time for homestasis.
If you already have short cycles, it is on the principle that Dante Trudel gave, i.e. 8 weeks blast 2-3 weeks crusie and not because of diminishing gains or health issues (because bodybuilding has nothing to do with health), but because very intensive training through period longer than 8 weeks + large doses of food will fatigue our body, so we give short time to rest for the nervous and digestive systems.
This is my opinion.
For a clear mind, just think logically - how many training units per muscle group are we able to do in 6 weeks? especially when it comes to advanced lifters 6-10? how much hypertrophy will occur after one training unit? after all, these are not the amounts that will give us a phenomenal increase. Moreover, everyone who trains longer knows that in order to maintain new gains, the body must enter a certain type of homeostasis and accept fiber overgrowth, otherwise we will quickly lose what we have gained, so even if after 6 weeks there was only anti-catabolism without anabolism, it is still beneficial was to use this period as a time for homestasis.
If you already have short cycles, it is on the principle that Dante Trudel gave, i.e. 8 weeks blast 2-3 weeks crusie and not because of diminishing gains or health issues (because bodybuilding has nothing to do with health), but because very intensive training through period longer than 8 weeks + large doses of food will fatigue our body, so we give short time to rest for the nervous and digestive systems.
This is my opinion.