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Bulking Diet

In order of importance:

Protein
Carbs
Fats

I don't know why people are brainwashed in to believing that fats can replace carbs as the primary energy source...just not optimal for bodybuilders.

i agree, but who said fats replaced carbs, that makes no sence!! It all depends on your primary goal. After that you can manipulate your protein, carbs, and fats.

mick
 
Ross, what works for you may not work for someone else. Don't be so arrogant. I get fat when I eat a lot of carbs and have found that I gain muscle much better and stay leaner eating just enough carbs to keep my muscles full of glycogen but no more. For me, this means I eat around 1x my bodyweight in grams of carbs and increase fat and protein to gain lean mass. Sometimes I can even do .75x bw in carbs and high protein and fat. I just gain more fat and look more bloated with any more carbs.
 
Ross, what works for you may not work for someone else. Don't be so arrogant. I get fat when I eat a lot of carbs and have found that I gain muscle much better and stay leaner eating just enough carbs to keep my muscles full of glycogen but no more. For me, this means I eat around 1x my bodyweight in grams of carbs and increase fat and protein to gain lean mass. Sometimes I can even do .75x bw in carbs and high protein and fat. I just gain more fat and look more bloated with any more carbs.

Now this is more like me, I totally agree. If I keep my carbs around 1x my body weight I am good. If not, I get bloated too. Plus the carbs I take in have to be complex carbs, not simple. I still have to keep my fats pretty low though because of my family back-round and chemistry. I keep my fats around .25x my body weight. This is just something that someone has to learn on their own and see how their body reacts to food. it just takes a time and patience to see what works for you. what ever someone chooses they have to stick to in order to see some results and how it works. Most people's
problem is they jump from diet to diet, not giving anything a chance to work. GOOD INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE HERE, GOOD THREAD!

MICK
 
carbs are not esential to muscle growth , plain and fucking simple.

they do however make it alot easier and allow us to train a bit harder and are generaly a way cheaper way to add calories than protein.
 
Stuff your face until you think you cannot eat anymore and then right bf you decide to settle down stuff your face with more. Clean High caloric intake. Food is the key to optimum growth. I have neglected my body alot of potential growth in the past due to to low of a caloric intake. Ya can take all the gear in the world but if your caloric intake is not inline with your training program you will not proceed.
 
This is a good thread glad i started it and glad all this info is piling in. Im working on a new diet and will post soon. Alot of lean meats tuna, chicken, deer meat along with alot of brown rice each meal. First meal im not sure of yet some ppl say alot of carbs to restore glycogen and some say alot of eggs for the protein and healthy fats whats your guys thoughts on the first meal of the day?
 
Rough Draft

6 am 7 whole eggs 1 one cup oats 1 bannana
7am 50G Whey
9:30 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice
12 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice 1 cup low fat cottage cheese
4:00 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice
7:00 8oz chicken breast 1 baked potatoe
9:00 50g whey 1 cup cottage cheese

Approx 3500 calories 372g protein 300 carbs 91 fats. I know its not perfect but its a big improvement. I know its alot of tuna and rice but i am on a budget and it cheap and easy to eat at work.
 
so many things on the menu .

the buffet is much quicker , LOL.

I agree lol. I know a guy hes 6'6 only is bout 195 biggest he was 210 but he could eat tons and tons of junk, fast food any thing unhealthy he would eat and he never went above 6% bf. Granted he had a hard time gaining weight but if i could eat anythin i wanted and stay 6% and under id be fuckin pumped lol.
 
That bulking diet would work for me if I was trying to jump from 80-82 lbs.
Diet is everything well almost everything. As a pler for years I can tell you
diet is important for success in bbing or pling. Yes bbing requires much more
detail and planning with food. The same would apply if you were trying to not break out(wt class) in pling. These guys will set you right.. T
 
Id start with a 33% ratio of macros and adjust from their to suit your bodys wants.

3500 cals = 288g-Protein , 288g-Carbs, 128g=Fat

have carbs in first 4 meals then cut out in last 2 meals

Meals-1-4 , 50g protein , 70g carbs , 15g fat

Meals 5&6 , 50g protein , 30g fat

All protein comes from meat and eggs , carbs comes from fruit and yams , fats come from meat and eggs

take 2 ,1000mg omega-3 caps per meal

try that for 2 weeks if gains are slow add 2 boiled eggs to each meal

just was wondering why such limited and no fish, whey, chicken, rice, oats, pasta, olive oil, peanut butter, nuts etc...?
 
That bulking diet would work for me if I was trying to jump from 80-82 lbs.
Diet is everything well almost everything. As a pler for years I can tell you
diet is important for success in bbing or pling. Yes bbing requires much more
detail and planning with food. The same would apply if you were trying to not break out(wt class) in pling. These guys will set you right.. T

Im gonna start here and see how it goes thats actually a good bit of food so when i stop gaining im gonna take some advice from these guys and add 2 boiled eggs to each meal and throw in another shake.
 
whats the reason for the Cialis ed preworkout?[/QUOTE

Ive read a few guys here love the pumps the get from it pw and i get shutdown after 4-5 weeks of test so i run it every cycle anyway.
 
just was wondering why such limited and no fish, whey, chicken, rice, oats, pasta, olive oil, peanut butter, nuts etc...?

Fish cost more than chicken and doesnt seems to fill me up as well , same for whey shakes , if i were wanting to add even more protein then i probably would use these more.

for the carbs , the rice and oats bloat my gut real bad where frut and yams don't. I'm real sensitive to gluten apparently and even some "gluten free" stuff still gives me issues.

for the fats i think it would be more benificial to use a fat that come along with protien like beef and eggs which in my opponion are very anabolic foods.

I found that carbs always made me bloated and puffy like high doese test with no anti-E's but since using fruit and yams its stopped that issue , its basicly an alergic reaction , much the same way some people have with milk.

Later toward contest time as i cut my carbs back and replace with protein ill add in some whey shakes since a local store here is sponsoring me and giving me free stuff
 
SEE food bulking

I spelled it right, lol. SEE FOOD.

If you see food eat it, lol.
Thats for bulking. Not lean mass or any other diet concern.
For bulking its all about calories in massive quantities for me.
So if I see food I eat it.

Needless to say you want to have lots of protein and everything just keep eating.

To me there is a difference between bulking and mass.
Mass to me is a leaner version of bulk.
 
whats the reason for the Cialis ed preworkout?[/QUOTE

Ive read a few guys here love the pumps the get from it pw and i get shutdown after 4-5 weeks of test so i run it every cycle anyway.

It is a nitric oxide booster.
It works much better than over the counter arganine type products.
 
Rough Draft

6 am 7 whole eggs 1 one cup oats 1 bannana
7am 50G Whey
9:30 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice
12 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice 1 cup low fat cottage cheese
4:00 1 can tuna 1 cup brown rice
7:00 8oz chicken breast 1 baked potatoe
9:00 50g whey 1 cup cottage cheese

Approx 3500 calories 372g protein 300 carbs 91 fats. I know its not perfect but its a big improvement. I know its alot of tuna and rice but i am on a budget and it cheap and easy to eat at work.

Switch the order of your 1st two meals.

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