Ok, it's easy enough to find reasoning behind a man who wants to take his physique and his muscularity to heights which will allow him to look very good and perhaps become a competitive bodybuilder, and then go ahead and step on stage on flaunt it for whatever reason
I think this basic premise is at the core of your misunderstanding. Most competitive bodybuilders (or "hardcore" bodybuilders that don't compete), do NOT do it to "look good" to others. It is a much more personal endeavor about self improvement. "Looking good" doesn't provide much motivation for most people, not enough for bodybuilding purposes. An insane addiction to maximally developing the body to it's ultimate limit provides a lot less reason, and a lot MORE motivation...
for me i'm having a difficult time understanding. for a female to take such large amounts of male hormones and animal hormones to develop their physiques beyond most male muscularities and destroy their own femininity through facial changes and genitalia enlargement is like having a man megadose himself with estrogen and other female hormones to somehow manage to grow a pair of breasts large enough and feminize his facial features and then shrink and starve himself so he can enter a beauty pageant. that is the way i see it but either way it doesn't really make sense to me.
i dont understand. lets be real here, 95% of most men do not find women bodybuilders attractive. not the iris kyle type.
Your analogy to a man mega-dosing himself with estrogen doesn't jive. These women aren't TRYING to get androgenic side effects, and MOST of them are careful enough not to get any sides too badly. Do you forget that MOST male bodybuilders have some level of breast tissue development?
Most women, probably 90-95% do NOT think professional level male bodybuilders are attractive by any means, especially in contest condition.
But all this is moot, your basic misunderstanding again is that bodybuilding and "attraction" are somehow involved.
Everybody has a different idea of beauty. If I looked like a top level bodybuilder (which im not even close) my woman would think it just as disgusting as if I was fat.
Excellent and accurate perspective.
You dont have to explain to others why you would want to look a certain way but i am pretty certain that some people dont make it their life goal to be an obese 600 lb human.
Sumo wrestlers come to mind. I think what you are having a hard time imagining is, these people have ZERO interest in what YOU find attractive.
ive got news for you, the rest of society views the male pros just like youre viewing the women who are equally hormonized and jacked up. for the most part women are not attracted to the pro bodybuilder look and there is nothing mentally healthy about a man wanting that look either. we all have our reasons why we do what we do.
Well said.
I think it's a great question.
Think about it, most men who are serious into bodybuilding didn't just decide overnight they want to be Mr. Olympia or be of that caliber. Most started training simply to look more appealing cosmetically. There just comes to be a certain point when some people get really really into it, and it leads to other goals (like being olympia caliber)
With women, I think the same theory can apply to an extent. Women want to look sexier and more appealing, then realize they love using weights and take it to another level
Looking more "cosmetically appealing" does NOT drive the average bodybuilder, even at the beginning stages. This is the core difference between competitive bodybuilders and people who workout.
There ya go right there. All this "it's a psychological issue" is just bullshit. Women (like my wife) get into working out and they start to love it. Obviously not all but some just want to take it to a higher level because they just love the changes they are seeing and decide they want to compete. Just like a person that plays any sport that gets into it enough to want to be the best and excel to the highest level possible. I get really annoyed when guys instantly start talking about sex and whether or not they would bang a girl that was a bodybuilder. The women that compete I'm sure could care less whether or not you want to have sex with them. I know plenty of guys that like the look. You see plenty of Pro women bodybuilders that are in relationships so they aren't hurting for men. Just let it go and deal with the fact that some women love having big muscles and being ripped to the bone. You don't like it then don't watch it but then certainly don't comment on it.
^This. Also, to someone the size of a pro bodybuilder, a female pro really isn't that big.
I love the look of fitness models. I have no problem with a female working out, attaining lean muscle and looking fit. But if you have have harder abs than i do and bigger arms than i do then i am going to think like i am fucking a dude. Sorry it is what it is. Sure there are men that like that look but there also people that jump off bridges. Just because 1% of the population may like that look doesnt make it perfectly ok. Not never in the history of mankind will a top pro female body builder look will be what is considered hot. Not never!
If any straight male thinks this is actually hot then i dont know what to say....
No straight female thinks male pros are "hot" either. To top it off, NONE of them are trying to be "hot."
It always amazes me how many people don't get that for most bodybuilders it's not about looking attractive, it's about doing what others don't have the willpower and determination to do. It's about proving you CAN succeed, you can add more muscle to your frame because you will it to happen. No matter what your gender is, bodybuilding is empowering.
Probably the best statement in this thread.
The main negative about it all is when they start taking male hormones and develop the secondary sexualy characteristics of men and then they dont ever have a period. Forget about having kids ever. Its a much bigger decision for a woman than it is for a man to be sure. Serious repercussions.
Men face the same repercussions. Sterility is common, so are secondary female characteristics like growing breasts and shrinking balls.
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