i saw phil on stage when he beat titus.. that was many years ago.. the funny thing, i believe phil could beat his all time best if he tried now.. age in bodybuilding is becoming more and more a non issue.. i am sure phil has learned more and more over the years.. i know that at 38 years old i know more about training and bodybuilding in general than i did 5 or 10 years ago.. so young guys.. remember it is a marathon ..not a sprint.. taking more and more supplements is not the answer.. time is.. consistant training is.. look at vince taylor.. granted , not all can be vince or phil.. but, the premise is the same..