Do you put your physique before women?

[bg091593]

ok well that pretty much settles it lol.. we are on the same page.


i love a good debate as well, but everyone else is coming armed with feeeeeeeeeeeelings (except for the family insurance coverage part lol Pumped)... not really conducive to a solid debate.

Yeah I hear that. Try debating politics on Facebook... 0 to 100 reallll quick.
^I'm not that guy.

 

[NGL34]

Honestly bro you must live in bum fuck no where or a place where there is a ridiculous higher ratio of women than man. Because what you describing is an anomaly/ fantasy from what us other guys experience. I live in a decent sized metropolitan. The competition is fierce. If your not a perfect 10 male you aren't going to pull anything less then what you are and maybe a couple points lower. Ex. Your 6-7/10, you might pull tons of 4 and 5's and a few 6-7/10, but dating over your look match is very rare. If your game is on point you maybe about to improve your odds, but not by any land slide if your target looks way better than yourself. Now I not completely calling you out just saying your circumstances were indeed rare.

Hell ya its rough man. I married my first wife when I was 20. She was my first really serious girlfriend and the first woman id ever slept with. Wen we got divorced here I was a 31 year old guy...pretty much no dating experience....and I hadn't had to ask a woman out in like 12 years. I had pretty low expectations. Turns out....I do a hell of a lot better than I expected. Some of the women I met were waaaay out of my league and I don't know how I managed it. Easy too. Online dating is nuts. There were literally days where I would meet up with 4-6 different women for sex,drinks or just to hang out or whatever. It got to be a pain in the ass trying to juggle it all or remember who I had talked to about what. and again....im really an average looking guy. I have a pretty good physique that women seem interested in....but facially im really like a 6-7

 

[NGL34]

Heavyhitter ---->>this picture Is a little closer to reality for those men who date online now a days.

Of course the picture didnt copy here, but it's the one slice posted of that fit guy and Snooky look a like troll walking down the beach.

 

[Deleted member 106824]

Honestly bro you must live in bum fuck no where or a place where there is a ridiculous higher ratio of women than man. Because what you describing is an anomaly/ fantasy from what us other guys experience. I live in a decent sized metropolitan. The competition is fierce. If your not a perfect 10 male you aren't going to pull anything less then what you are and maybe a couple points lower. Ex. Your 6-7/10, you might pull tons of 4 and 5's and a few 6-7/10, but dating over your look match is very rare. If your game is on point you maybe about to improve your odds, but not by any land slide if your target looks way better than yourself. Now I not completely calling you out just saying your circumstances were indeed rare.

Man you guys have some very different experiences than me. I know TONS of guys who are at best average looking who have hot girlfriends/wives. Maybe it's the status as most of my friends are doctors/dentists/lawyers but I'd say it is much more common for a guy who is physically a 6-7 pulling a girl who is physically an 8-9 than it is to see the opposite.

Now if we're talking online dating, yes, I totally agree. Women have such a huge number of options they will often only select guys as hot as them or hotter, but in person? No way.

Then of course there are all of the examples of guys who used to be a football/frat star in college and now look like shit but still have the hot gf/wife

ok well that pretty much settles it lol.. we are on the same page.


i love a good debate as well, but everyone else is coming armed with feeeeeeeeeeeelings (except for the family insurance coverage part lol Pumped)... not really conducive to a solid debate.

Don't forget those great benefits


I also think emotion does have to factor into decision making at times, depending on the context. And that's coming from someone who is not generally considered very emotional. Ultimately, we are all after a life that provides the greatest net positive emotion, not the life that is most logical (that is not the direct goal at least.....like I said, logic and emotion are not opposites).

 

[Bloxz]

When you realize the absurdity and fragility of life; you won't tolerate bad relationships in fear of abandonment...there are way too many girls out there, and not enough therapists to help you get along with some psycho

Not sure why more men don't get this simple ass concept.

 

[Bloxz]

Heavyhitter ---->>this picture Is a little closer to reality for those men who date online now a days.

Of course the picture didnt copy here, but it's the one slice posted of that fit guy and Snooky look a like troll walking down the beach.

I'm sorry but, what?


I use online dating apps all the time. I travel a lot and no matter where in the world I'm at, I'm only swiping right on super hot pussy, period. I do pretty well if I say so myself so I'm not getting that picture of what a woman would consider an attractive looking man walking with a snookie troll.

Somebody help me understand.

 

[little slice]

Man you guys have some very different experiences than me. I know TONS of guys who are at best average looking who have hot girlfriends/wives. Maybe it's the status as most of my friends are doctors/dentists/lawyers but I'd say it is much more common for a guy who is physically a 6-7 pulling a girl who is physically an 8-9 than it is to see the opposite.

what do the wives' side boyfriends look like?




I also think emotion does have to factor into decision making at times, depending on the context. i guess if you arrive at two more or less equal conclusions/options through logic and reason, then you could use emotion to pick between them... but otherwise IMO, emotion should never be used to make an important decision.. you will just about always end up regretting it.

 

[Deleted member 106824]

what do the wives' side boyfriends look like?

I'm going to assume this is tongue in cheek because I know you are well aware that plenty of women in this situation do not have side guys and plenty of women with men hotter than themselves still have side guys

i guess if you arrive at two more or less equal conclusions/options through logic and reason, then you could use emotion to pick between them... but otherwise IMO, emotion should never be used to make an important decision.. you will just about always end up regretting it.

I do not necessarily mean using your current mood/emotion to make a decision, I mean factoring in emotion to the decision. You can logically derive what decision will create the greatest amount of net happiness for you. Therefore, you are considering emotion in your logical decision.

"I am not going to get married to a woman because I don't want to be in a slave-slave master situation that will make me unhappy and I will use this argument to cover up my own homosexuality" is both a logical, emotional, and factual statement for you buddy

 

[dale338]

I'm going to assume this is tongue in cheek because I know you are well aware that plenty of women in this situation do not have side guys and plenty of women with men hotter than themselves still have side guys





I do not necessarily mean using your current mood/emotion to make a decision, I mean factoring in emotion to the decision. You can logically derive what decision will create the greatest amount of net happiness for you. Therefore, you are considering emotion in your logical decision.

"I am not going to get married to a woman because I don't want to be in a slave-slave master situation that will make me unhappy and I will use this argument to cover up my own homosexuality" is both a logical, emotional, and factual statement for you buddy

It is true, that once we've had a few hotties, we get a little god complex thing going on. Human nature. I've done it myself. After the model girl, I just figured the next would be around the next corner. Wrong! She was a once in a lifetime deal. That said, it raised my confidence to a new level and attracting quality woman is now easier for me than ever, but not on her level.

Women do this ten times worse then men. They are often even willing to recycle "hot men" knowing they will and have been with countless others, just for the experience. Once they've had a few of these men, the hot ones, they tend to think they are ten times better than they really are, not understanding, the hot guy just wanted a warm place to put it for a bit. LOL.

 

[little slice]

Women do this ten times worse then men. They are often even willing to recycle "hot men" knowing they will and have been with countless others, just for the experience. Once they've had a few of these men, the hot ones, they tend to think they are ten times better than they really are, not understanding, the hot guy just wanted a warm place to put it for a bit. LOL.

essentially..


a woman who is a 3 gets dolled up to be a 5, and gets boned out in the hallway at a party by a blacked out drunk stud/9


she then thinks she's at least a 9... and turns her nose up at 4's, 5's, and 6's


even though she's a 3


she will likely be alone forever... or until she 'settles' for a 5-6.. who is still wildly more attractive than her


she will resent this man, because she thinks she's a 9.

 

[heavyhitter]

Honestly bro you must live in bum fuck no where or a place where there is a ridiculous higher ratio of women than man. Because what you describing is an anomaly/ fantasy from what us other guys experience. I live in a decent sized metropolitan. The competition is fierce. If your not a perfect 10 male you aren't going to pull anything less then what you are and maybe a couple points lower. Ex. Your 6-7/10, you might pull tons of 4 and 5's and a few 6-7/10, but dating over your look match is very rare. If your game is on point you maybe about to improve your odds, but not by any land slide if your target looks way better than yourself. Now I not completely calling you out just saying your circumstances were indeed rare.

I don’t think I’d consider the Phoenix metro area bum fuck nowhere

 

[Voxide]

This thread is giving me a massive headache.


My philosophy? Just slam heroic doses of Deca and leave women behind.

 

[G.I.Bro]

This thread is giving me a massive headache.


My philosophy? Just slam heroic doses of Deca and leave women behind.

Just slam heroic doses of pussy and leave drama behind.

Fixed.

You don't want to be the antisocial hermit bodybuilder guy that gets no ass do you? Cmon fellas. Humans are apes cursed with higher intelligence. 90% of what men do on an daily basis is still motivated by a base underlying desire to fuck twat. Money, power, status. If you are took twat away, those things become much less desirable for the work required to attain them in a world with no pursuit of hot ass. Eating is a close second. Everything else is games apes in suits play for marbles.

Once you poop out some kids there is another level of purpose and you start living vicariously through your children. But until then, it's very much apes playing games. We like to think we're higher level, but the same base desires tend to govern a lot of what we do.

If you genuinely want to have kids, get married to a stable chick. If you don't truly want a family and kids, marriage is a disaster.

 

[Voxide]

Just slam heroic doses of pussy and leave drama behind.

Fixed.

You don't want to be the antisocial hermit bodybuilder guy that gets no ass do you?

Why not? Maybe it's this last run I did but the idea of fucking all the time really doesn't spark me up a lot. I'd rather make sure I have a hefty retirement fund so I can move to Cambodia/Thailand and just play with all the OTC opiates and benzos all day and lay on the beach. Whether that involves sex or not, I could really care less. My reward pathways are probably fried pretty bad but avoiding women will pay dividends in the future.

 

[G.I.Bro]

Why not? Maybe it's this last run I did but the idea of fucking all the time really doesn't spark me up a lot. I'd rather rather make sure I have a hefty retirement fund so I can move to Cambodia/Thailand and just play with all the OTC opiates and benzos all day and lay on the beach.

To each his own. At 35 there isn't a lot left that's really exciting except some wild sex... Maybe that's just me.

 

[Voxide]

To each his own. At 35 there isn't a lot left that's really exciting except some wild sex... Maybe that's just me.

Sex to me always just felt this kind of mechanical chore that didn't really complete any real objective. It felt primal and I always felt above it somehow. This is even back when I was clean and my natty test would regularly come back in the high 800s, but I've always been a red-pill/MGTOW/borderline misogynist after a nasty breakup in my late teens that ended with criminal charges.

Don't get me wrong, I get horny and I usually masturbate without pornography, but none of the juice seems worth the squeeze. I hate the idea of sharing my body with someone and potentially being used as a tool.

 

[little slice]

Sex to me always just felt this kind of mechanical chore that didn't really complete any real objective. It felt primal and I always felt above it somehow. This is even back when I was clean and my natty test would regularly come back in the high 800s, but I've always been a red-pill/MGTOW/borderline misogynist after a nasty breakup in my late teens that ended with criminal charges.

Don't get me wrong, I get horny and I usually masturbate without pornography, but none of the juice seems worth the squeeze. I hate the idea of sharing my body with someone and potentially being used as a tool.

im listening

 

[snowpatrol]

Man, canada long weekend was good but I missed a lot of content...luckily my boss is on holidays and after sending out a hefty email six hours ago, I was able to spend the bulk of the rest of my day catching up...

I am interested in a few things, but would like to bump

- how is the OP faring with his 'side piece' and the $7M wallet issue?
- also would love to pry into the above poster's messy breakup that involved criminal charges
- little slice's current relationship status

 

[G.I.Bro]

Man, canada long weekend was good but I missed a lot of content...luckily my boss is on holidays and after sending out a hefty email six hours ago, I was able to spend the bulk of the rest of my day catching up...

I am interested in a few things, but would like to bump

- how is the OP faring with his 'side piece' and the $7M wallet issue?
- also would love to pry into the above poster's messy breakup that involved criminal charges
- little slice's current relationship status

I'll help:

1) All bs
2) dumped by her and then he stalked her, restraining order and possibly some assault/domestic charges or violation of restraining order
3) Single, gay, slutty.

 

[little slice]

- little slice's current relationship status

scared out of my f*cking mind





one of my buddies just beat a rap after being falsely accused of abusing his child

another one just had a serious pregnancy scare after some chick tried to baby trap him

another one is getting treated for syphilis



and me? im just chillin, making money, and getting dope abs.

im not getting out there again until im snipped... at the very least.



last chick I actually dated was a 34 y/o single mother (lol) who had a 14 year old daughter.

they were chill, and ex husband was just glad that i wasn't an asshole.. so things were pretty good.

then it became clear that daughter was starting to shift her focus off of boys her age..... you see where this is going.


never ran so fast in my life lol..