Insulin and DNP together for fat loss...Is it worth it??

Chris288 · Dec 21, 2009

Hey guys.... running a cutter through the holidays after coming off of an injury and some fat gain. My question is do you guys think the gains you get from using Insulin with a DNP cycle are worth it. First off, fat loss is my main goal.. not trying to build a ton of muscle. I am currently and have been off AAS for some time.. and want to hold onto muscle without using AAS as I want to do my cycle to put on muscle...so I do not want to them at this time. I am running the DNP for 24 days straight at 200mg per day. I have used slin before in the past... but never this way and never with DNP. I only was going to use it for about 3 days at the end of each DNP cycle. Unless u guys have a better protocal? Also not sure how much to use with the DNP. Will the gains actually be worth using slin for 2 or 3 days at the end of the DNP cycle for the anabolism?? Or should I just use natural methods for Insulin spike and hope to hold onto a couple pounds at the end of the cycles? Thanks for the help

rickyboy36 · Dec 21, 2009

Chris288 said:
Hey guys.... running a cutter through the holidays after coming off of an injury and some fat gain. My question is do you guys think the gains you get from using Insulin with a DNP cycle are worth it. First off, fat loss is my main goal.. not trying to build a ton of muscle. I am currently and have been off AAS for some time.. and want to hold onto muscle without using AAS as I want to do my cycle to put on muscle...so I do not want to them at this time. I am running the DNP for 24 days straight at 200mg per day. I have used slin before in the past... but never this way and never with DNP. I only was going to use it for about 3 days at the end of each DNP cycle. Unless u guys have a better protocal? Also not sure how much to use with the DNP. Will the gains actually be worth using slin for 2 or 3 days at the end of the DNP cycle for the anabolism?? Or should I just use natural methods for Insulin spike and hope to hold onto a couple pounds at the end of the cycles? Thanks for the help

Good luck bro!I would love to hear this as well but people here for some reason are probably going to flame you for this.Unless BigA chimes in like he's been doing lately,i doubt you will get any answers..

b-boy · Dec 21, 2009

BTPB

Chris288 said:
Hey guys.... running a cutter through the holidays after coming off of an injury and some fat gain. My question is do you guys think the gains you get from using Insulin with a DNP cycle are worth it. First off, fat loss is my main goal.. not trying to build a ton of muscle. I am currently and have been off AAS for some time.. and want to hold onto muscle without using AAS as I want to do my cycle to put on muscle...so I do not want to them at this time. I am running the DNP for 24 days straight at 200mg per day. I have used slin before in the past... but never this way and never with DNP. I only was going to use it for about 3 days at the end of each DNP cycle. Unless u guys have a better protocal? Also not sure how much to use with the DNP. Will the gains actually be worth using slin for 2 or 3 days at the end of the DNP cycle for the anabolism?? Or should I just use natural methods for Insulin spike and hope to hold onto a couple pounds at the end of the cycles? Thanks for the help

Author L. Rea......... DNP + insulin = poor mans IGF

Chris288 · Dec 21, 2009

Thanks bro.... ya I was curious as I used to read Duchaines articles about it.

Chris288 · Dec 21, 2009

Looking that up now B-Boy.. thank you

Chris288 · Dec 21, 2009

Hey B-boy... thanks so much bro... I have found the article online. Ya I feel OK on low dose DNP as well.. I did not feel good on slin either. Thats cool that you lost BF and still gained 4pounds though... awesome!!

Gunsmith · Dec 21, 2009

Chris288 said:
Hey B-boy... thanks so much bro... I have found the article online. Ya I feel OK on low dose DNP as well.. I did not feel good on slin either. Thats cool that you lost BF and still gained 4pounds though... awesome!!

where the artical bro , post a link or somthin please , this POS government computer won't let me search for shit

b-boy · Dec 21, 2009

Gunsmith said:
where the artical bro , post a link or somthin please , this POS government computer won't let me search for shit

building the perfect beast www

in the PDF file window on the screen scroll almost down to the bottom and its there. a lot of science geek talk but you will get the idea, it even lays out a cycle. (not that i recommend doing that). "disclaimer".

Chris288 · Dec 21, 2009

Yup thats the link B-Boy !!! Awesome stuff

rickyboy36 · Dec 22, 2009

b-boy said:
I done it about 5 years ago and i lost bodyfat and put on about 4 lbs, its was exactly like using IGF to me, my muscles got that pumped 3D look. I just don't like insulin anymore, hell i feel better running DNP than i do inuslin..LOL I hate how i feel on insulin. Good luck.

How much were you eating over maintenance b-boy?

Thanks!

b-boy · Dec 22, 2009

rickyboy36 said:
How much were you eating over maintenance b-boy?

Thanks!

O shit

im sorry bro that was like 5 or 6 years ago! i don't even remember what the hell i ate last week...LOL ha ha ha

HawaiiMuscle · Dec 22, 2009

Am I reading this rt? ...the example cycle called for humalog 8iu to 10iu--3x/day, every other day?

And anyone done this with log instead of R?

rickyboy36 · Dec 22, 2009

b-boy said:
O shit im sorry bro that was like 5 or 6 years ago! i don't even remember what the hell i ate last week...LOL ha ha ha

hahaha good one

.But do you know if you were in a "calorie surplus" at the time?

DShaw · Dec 23, 2009

I don't think insulin works for weight loss. Most people I've talked to about it said it made them fat.

skulbone · Dec 23, 2009

ANYONE... Who tries this had better be very advanced with BOTH items INDEPENDANT of each other. With the sides of dnp and the hypo of slin at the same time, you may not know what your feeling if something were to happen. Also, you probably should have a partner during training, and someone at your home. This is not something most should do. Just get IGF-1 instead, and don't risk your life.

b-boy · Dec 23, 2009

DShaw said:
I don't think insulin works for weight loss. Most people I've talked to about it said it made them fat.

insulin + DNP

DIEZEL666 · Dec 23, 2009

skulbone said:
ANYONE... Who tries this had better be very advanced with BOTH items INDEPENDANT of each other. With the sides of dnp and the hypo of slin at the same time, you may not know what your feeling if something were to happen. Also, you probably should have a partner during training, and someone at your home. This is not something most should do. Just get IGF-1 instead, and don't risk your life.

From what I understand it's very difficult to go hypo on insulin when taking DNP due to DNP truncating the insulin molecule.

DIEZEL666 · Dec 23, 2009

b-boy said:
I done it about 5 years ago and i lost bodyfat and put on about 4 lbs, its was exactly like using IGF to me, my muscles got that pumped 3D look. I just don't like insulin anymore, hell i feel better running DNP than i do inuslin..LOL I hate how i feel on insulin. Good luck.

B-Boy, thank you for sharing. Would you mind giving us a run down on what you do remember about this protocol? Also, what have your experiences been with DNP since then? Thanks again.

Ness · Dec 23, 2009

rickyboy36 said:
hahaha good one .But do you know if you were in a "calorie surplus" at the time?

Acquiring muscle starts with hormone and training manipulation followed only then by an increase in calories to MAINTAIN lean mass. In other words, you will add muscle by adding hormones and training. Adding more food will only make you fatter if your hormone and training regiment is not manipulated.

If eating in surplus lead to lean mass then we would all be 280 ripped.