is water retention a good thing...

eatcrow · Feb 18, 2005

..if you're lookingh for strength gains more so than size?

xcelbeyond · Feb 18, 2005

Welcome.

If you don't mind looking like the Pillsbury Doughboy

While the water retention can increase strength, it can really increase your BP as well.

tarbaby2000 · Feb 18, 2005

I really dont see it as a good thing at all.

Vander_V · Feb 18, 2005

tarbaby2000 said:
I really dont see it as a good thing at all.

I think its a great thing helps alot with joints .

Pittbull™ · Feb 18, 2005

I think to a certan extent it's great for strength & joints. However as xcel pointed out it's not good for your BP, which is something no one wants specially someone going for heavy lifts as this will in turn push your BP really through the roof. JMO anyway

Pittbull

Mr_Magoo · Feb 18, 2005

depends on how much water, remember if ur a power lifter, u will be lifting more actual weigt because when u squat, u r also squatting part of ur body weight

gooey · Feb 18, 2005

yes and no

eatcrow said:
..if you're lookingh for strength gains more so than size?

great for joints, but bad for blood pressure, strength is a component of force and time and amount, not about how much H2O u retain, if ur blood pressureis to high not good on kidneys, very stressful for them.
gooey

eatcrow · Feb 19, 2005

Thanks for the responses.

I was told that gains made from creatine are only muscular water retention, not lean mass thats why I asked. I want to look somewhat lean (I wouldnt mind a little body fat) but without the water retention.

I'm going through a streesful period in my life which has resulted in retained water bloat.. I wouldnt mind this if it didnt hurt so much, sometimes to the point where I cant stand up for more than 5 minutes.

I'm a natural athlete (I dont intend to use roids anytime soon) but I'm considerining anti-e's to control the situation... Nolvadex and Femara to be precise.

I'd like to hear your opinions on this.

FRKNHUGE · Feb 19, 2005

i use some (10-20mg) lasix, the arimi and femara and nolv wont do shit for creatine bloat IMO
but for me bloat= strength
frk

MikeS · Feb 19, 2005

Since your retention isnt due to high test leves and its resulting conversion to estro, I dont think anti-e's are your answer. Why not a mild herbal dieuretic like dandellion root or Taraxtone?

eatcrow · Feb 19, 2005

FRKNHUGE said:
i use some (10-20mg) lasix, the arimi and femara and nolv wont do shit for creatine bloat IMO
but for me bloat= strength
frk

I'm not on Creatine I just used that as an example.

eatcrow · Feb 19, 2005

MikeS said:
Since your retention isnt due to high test leves and its resulting conversion to estro, I dont think anti-e's are your answer. Why not a mild herbal dieuretic like dandellion root or Taraxtone?

The retention is caused by an edema.. The swelling is the result of the accumulation of excess fluid under the skin in the spaces within the tissues that are outside of the blood vessels.. its not regular bloating as such.

Qwert · Feb 20, 2005

Creatine, imo, is crap. It's just temporary water retention & it all goes away once you stop taking it. I can't stand edema anymore. So tired of looking like Mr Basketball head & having the headaches & HBP that goes along with it. So on a cycle, I take a mild diuretic like aldactone or dyazide 2-3 times a week & it controls it nicely. I still have enough edema that it helps with strenght & joints, but no so much that it becomes uncomfortable & a health risk.

eatcrow · Feb 20, 2005

my edema's killing my joints.. is it even possible to benefit from edemas?

vitor · Feb 20, 2005

I couldnt see you getting that bloated from creatine use,

eatcrow · Feb 20, 2005

yeah, its not creatine... I actually feel really good when I'm on creatine. I havent used it in over a year because they discontinued Monahydrate where I live.

eatcrow · Feb 20, 2005

MikeS said:
Since your retention isnt due to high test leves and its resulting conversion to estro, I dont think anti-e's are your answer. Why not a mild herbal dieuretic like dandellion root or Taraxtone?

I'll try lasix at small dosages... do you know how long it takes to kick in?