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my first cycle, pls comment.

monk..

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Hi,

I'm 36 and have been training for 7 years with last 4 years more serious and consistent in training and diet, 5'11 @ 185lbs.
I have been reading and researching for the past year for my first cycle.
This is what I come up with:

Week 1 -10 test E 500mg/ wk (250mg x 2)
Week 1 -10 aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 11-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (??)
Week 13-16 clomid 50/50/50/50
Week 13-16 nolva 40/40/20/20

I know it's been advised that test only be the first cycle hence the above.
Any advise? Is my PCT alrite?
Since AI is included during cycle, gyno is prevented, correct?
So gyno will not happen?
If it does, nolva will be used at 20mg first while aromasin is still in use - is that alrite to have both nolva and aromasin running at the same time? (pls ignore this question if gyno will not happen)

I was told by a few who had a few cycles that test e will not give me much result and suggested adding deca and dbol.
I thought for a first cycle, test e @ 500mg should show some results with a good diet and training, no?

Should I extend aromasin to week 11 -12 or until end of PCT?
I was told to add in Proviron instead of amarosin? any advise on that?
Comments and advices please
 

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Thats how mine looks minus the nolva, so I hope it good lol
 

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I think that looks pretty good man.

I've always had adex on cycle, but A LOT of people have had bunk adexs lately. I've gone through 3 batches already. So I was goin to use aromasin next time and see if that works. I've never done it though, keep us updated.

You got a nice setup for your first cycle bro.
 

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I was told by a few who had a few cycles that test e will not give me much result and suggested adding deca and dbol.
I thought for a first cycle, test e @ 500mg should show some results with a good diet and training, no?

500 is fine for your first and the results you get depend on your diet and training. If you feel you need more info on diet and training just search around here and you will find everything you need. Have fun with your first your gonna love it!!
 

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i know what they "say"....
and what they "do"...

but to be completely honest here???.......

i WISH i did twice as much my very cycle
or even 3 times as much shit!!!!....that i actually did..

because you'll never gain as much, as fast, as hard...AND KEEP IT.....
than your FIRST cycle......(you'll never gain like that again)

so........if i was to give you ANY advice???

it would be, double what you have
add another compound at similar dosage
and add an oral too

but what the fuck do i know????
im a fuckin nobody, but i have been around the block
(more than once)

keepin it real

:cool:
 

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Hi,

I'm 36 and have been training for 7 years with last 4 years more serious and consistent in training and diet, 5'11 @ 185lbs.
I have been reading and researching for the past year for my first cycle.
This is what I come up with:

Week 1 -10 test E 500mg/ wk (250mg x 2)
Week 1 -10 aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 11-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (??)
Week 13-16 clomid 50/50/50/50
Week 13-16 nolva 40/40/20/20

I know it's been advised that test only be the first cycle hence the above.
Any advise? Is my PCT alrite?
Since AI is included during cycle, gyno is prevented, correct?
So gyno will not happen?
If it does, nolva will be used at 20mg first while aromasin is still in use - is that alrite to have both nolva and aromasin running at the same time? (pls ignore this question if gyno will not happen)

I was told by a few who had a few cycles that test e will not give me much result and suggested adding deca and dbol.
I thought for a first cycle, test e @ 500mg should show some results with a good diet and training, no?

Should I extend aromasin to week 11 -12 or until end of PCT?
I was told to add in Proviron instead of amarosin? any advise on that?
Comments and advices please

Perhaps bumping up the first 2 weeks of clomid in pct

100/75/50/50
 

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Hi,

I'm 36 and have been training for 7 years with last 4 years more serious and consistent in training and diet, 5'11 @ 185lbs.
I have been reading and researching for the past year for my first cycle.
This is what I come up with:

Week 1 -10 test E 500mg/ wk (250mg x 2)
Week 1 -10 aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 11-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (??)
Week 13-16 clomid 50/50/50/50
Week 13-16 nolva 40/40/20/20

I know it's been advised that test only be the first cycle hence the above.
Any advise? Is my PCT alrite?
Since AI is included during cycle, gyno is prevented, correct?
So gyno will not happen?
If it does, nolva will be used at 20mg first while aromasin is still in use - is that alrite to have both nolva and aromasin running at the same time? (pls ignore this question if gyno will not happen)

I was told by a few who had a few cycles that test e will not give me much result and suggested adding deca and dbol.
I thought for a first cycle, test e @ 500mg should show some results with a good diet and training, no?

Should I extend aromasin to week 11 -12 or until end of PCT?
I was told to add in Proviron instead of amarosin? any advise on that?
Comments and advices please

Good cycle layout. You should be able to gain good results from this cycle if you keep everything in check!

ENDO
 

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Good cycle layout. You should be able to gain good results from this cycle if you keep everything in check!

ENDO

great but i might switch aromasin out and replaced with arimidex as the aromasin I'm planning to purchase comes in 25mg small convex pill...very difficult to cut into half...:(
 

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Cycle looks good bro! Only thing I can add from my exp from my first cycle is take your leaness into account. The less lean you are the harder it will be to see the results in the mirror. I started mine at about 12-14% and that's really the highest you would want to be. Not that I didn't get great results but they would have been more dramatic if I started at 10%.

Kill it bro!
 

monk..

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Cycle looks good bro! Only thing I can add from my exp from my first cycle is take your leaness into account. The less lean you are the harder it will be to see the results in the mirror. I started mine at about 12-14% and that's really the highest you would want to be. Not that I didn't get great results but they would have been more dramatic if I started at 10%.

Kill it bro!

noted! thanks!
I think i'm around 15%?..still trying to lower before I start...
 

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Hi,

I'm 36 and have been training for 7 years with last 4 years more serious and consistent in training and diet, 5'11 @ 185lbs.
I have been reading and researching for the past year for my first cycle.
This is what I come up with:

Week 1 -10 test E 500mg/ wk (250mg x 2)
Week 1 -10 aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 11-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (??)
Week 13-16 clomid 50/50/50/50
Week 13-16 nolva 40/40/20/20

I know it's been advised that test only be the first cycle hence the above.
Any advise? Is my PCT alrite?
Since AI is included during cycle, gyno is prevented, correct?
So gyno will not happen?
If it does, nolva will be used at 20mg first while aromasin is still in use - is that alrite to have both nolva and aromasin running at the same time? (pls ignore this question if gyno will not happen)

I was told by a few who had a few cycles that test e will not give me much result and suggested adding deca and dbol.
I thought for a first cycle, test e @ 500mg should show some results with a good diet and training, no?

Should I extend aromasin to week 11 -12 or until end of PCT?
I was told to add in Proviron instead of amarosin? any advise on that?
Comments and advices please

Okay, you got a decent cycle but this dont mean anything unless your diet isnt in check. Whats it look like?
 

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YOu don't need Nolva and clomid for PCT. More is not always better when it comes to PCT.
 

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Okay, you got a decent cycle but this dont mean anything unless your diet isnt in check. Whats it look like?

my diet currently:

oatmeal
4 eggs
multi-grain bread with natural PB

protein shake
dory

chicken breast
dory
rice
green apple

protein shake
dory

5 eggs
brown rice cakes

post workout shake

chicken breast
vegetables

caesin protein shake

marcos are 50% P, 30% C and 20% F, calories at 3200 daily for 6 days.
I understand once on cycle, calories has to increase, protein has to increase...so will eat real food and try not to take more shakes to make up the numbers.
 

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cycle

Listen to Tenny he has made my body change like never before bro knows his shit.
 

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I agree I would bump the dose up a bit and maybe add an oral, you can only pop the cherry once
 

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my diet currently:

oatmeal
4 eggs
multi-grain bread with natural PB

protein shake
dory

chicken breast
dory
rice
green apple

protein shake
dory

5 eggs
brown rice cakes

post workout shake

chicken breast
vegetables

caesin protein shake

marcos are 50% P, 30% C and 20% F, calories at 3200 daily for 6 days.
I understand once on cycle, calories has to increase, protein has to increase...so will eat real food and try not to take more shakes to make up the numbers.

That's a lot of protein shakes. Eat more real food. What are you goals?
 

monk..

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That's a lot of protein shakes. Eat more real food. What are you goals?

Yes, intended to change out a couple with white meats.
goal is to put on muscle mass and try to reach 190 or more on this cycle..
i hope there will be fats gain together with the mass but hope it's not too much. :D
I'm currently trying to drop more fats % while waiting to start.
 

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btw....another query...
i have read that as one runs more cycles, they will usually use more than just test.
however, what if one has run test e+ deca for a cycle, can he goes back to test e only and yet make gains?
I'm asking this as my buddy started off with test e/ deca (250mg/200mg) and now thinking of trying test e @500mg....but wonders about the possibility of gains...
any advise/ comments?:D
 

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Youve got the right idea I think your buddies cycle of low doses of test and deca was pretty much a waste. He should have doubled those doses
 

monk..

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Youve got the right idea I think your buddies cycle of low doses of test and deca was pretty much a waste. He should have doubled those doses

oh, the dosage was too low for the last cycle?
i thought for 450mg of gear, one should at least gain something.
anyway he is dosing double for his next cycle...500mg test+ 400mg deca...he dont think going on 500mg test alone will gain much..
 

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