need some help with training question

[street]

My training has been gettin heavier and heavier I have cut back on volume and added more rest days.After the workout I am physically stuffed for over an hour.I have doubled the carbs in my post workout drink to 200g which helps recovery but Im still out of it for quite a while.I am guessing its lactic acid and other waste products being returned to homeostasis.There are alot of guys lifting above my level on here and must have had to deal with this type of thing.I have seen things on lactic acid buffers but the research doesn't seem that convincing.Any help is appreciated as I have other work to do and cannot lie around for 2 hrs after a workout .

 

[Birdman]

What supplements and AAS do you currently use?

 

[street]

Thats a bit personal nobody uses that stuff anymore but if I were to be doing that illegal stuff I may hypothetically use test prop at 5-800 mg per week and dball for 30 mg a day both into the 4 weeks going on 5 with test at 1000mgper week for 4 weeks by itself and thats all.I do not see how that matters thats why I am replying.

 

[street]

heres some more details if it helps.calories are 4000 at protein 30% Carbs 55% and I weigh a bit over 270LB and cardio is 20 min 3 days a week and its offseason at the moment .PLus I am a yates advocate and am down to 1 work set per excercise.

 

[RazorCuts]

Since it seems you are a HIT advocate you probably train balls to the wall every workout, correct?
Do you take time off or back off weeks?

Joe

 

[street]

About every 6 week I have 4 to 7 days off and then have 2 weeks using not any forced reps negs etc.I am making good gains.last week I took an extra rest day so the last 2 weeks I have probably only trained 3 times a week on a 4 day split.

 

[ironfreak83]

as i started handling heavier and heavier weight, i had to go to a 3 day split. 3 days a week and no more. i have to get 8-10 hours of sleep every night and still feel fatigued sometimes. the human body just really isnt meant to do this stuff all the time constantly. i still get over-trained even when i'm on cycle and have to take 1-2 weeks off. i also had to up my carbs a lot and i keep my protein about 450-500 grams a day.

i usually bench on sundays. on this day i do all of my tricep work and usually one bicep exercise. then on monday i do my max effort squat day which either consists of squats, good mornings, or deadlifts. you cannot squat heavy every week and still expect to make good gains. keep your training varied by alternating those 3 lifts every once in awhile for legs, and then do all of your accessory work after that main lift. and finally on wednesday or thursday, whichever day i feel recovered, i do shoulders and back. this seems to be the best routine for me, and it allows me to stay fully recovered most of the time.

i feel fatigued a lot and i think its just the body trying to recover from all that heavy weight. again, these are just suggestions, but i definately feel what you're goin through. i do however, have no problem eating after training, but i have no appetite in the mornings so i have to resort to protein shakes. not sure why i posted all that about recovery and stuff, i just wasnt sure if you were asking about recovery or about feeling full after your post workout shake. lol maybe i need to get to bed.

 

[street]

yes I am talking about short term recovery.The first hour or so after the workout.That reminds me to add some carbs to my water for during the workout.Talking about feeling full Our scales went on the fritz so I worked out a 4000 cal diet but used a source that gave cup measurements eg 1 cup oats.recently we got a new digital scale and checked all of the weights it turns out I was eating 5 -6000 cals talk about full and i was try to lose some fat and bring down the gut bloating ,I went up a notch on my belt nearly.