post the ideal bulking diet, ratios, macros, and supps and please comment on mine.

[peco_12345]

trying to create the ideal diet, need some help guys.
5"8 196 at 11% bf.
going to bulk on test, tren, anadrol and dbol combo. still thinking about how im gonna do the cycle.

but maybe test E 750mgs, tren 75-100mgs EOD for 8 weeks, dbol 30mgs and drol 50 mgs for 6 weeks. cycle lenght 14 to 16 weeks. done about 6 cycles before, first time using tren.

still considering training pattern. open to all suggestions, definatly do not want to overtrain/ usual training has been heavy 3 days on 1 day off and repeat.

chest/bis/traps day 1

legs/shoulders day 2

tris/back/ day 3

off

repeat as day 1

repeat as day 2/ forearms.

repeat as day/ 3 calves.

training mainly in strict form heavy with lots of negatives, supersets, drop sets, concentrating on streches, etc most bodyparts in the 12 to 9 set range with warm ups.
training every 2nd week every bodypart once in high set range {15-25} with shorter rest times.

supplements: whey protien, multi, fish oil, liv 52, caffiene when needed, calcium.

diet still tweaking but as follows.

meal 1. early morning:1 serving whey with water.

meal 2. 6 whole eggs, 2 cups of raw oats, cup of non fat yougart. 2 fish oil caps.

meal 3. 2 cans of light tuna in water, tablespoon of olive oil and 2 cups of rice.

meal 3. 3 whole eggs

meal 4. pre workout; can of tuna and cup of oats raw.

meal 6. post workout shake with water 2 servings whey.

meal 7. 12oz chicken breast, tablespoon of olive oil two cups of rice.

meal 8. 1 cup of lowfat cottage cheese, cup of skin milk and tablespoon of peanut butter.

once a week will cheat and eat mainly anything i want for a major meal to get extra calories and on weak bodypart days will replace chicken breast with steak occasionally.

 

[damuffinman]

you dont even have to cycle cut out the some the drug usage and increase your food intake you will easily break 200.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

You cant live on that diet for long..............you will implode mentally, plus it is not healthy............TEST, TREN, ANADROL, DBOL?? Crazy.........

 

[peco_12345]

You cant live on that diet for long..............you will implode mentally, plus it is not healthy............TEST, TREN, ANADROL, DBOL?? Crazy.........

open to all suggestions.

 

[oldfella]

The ideal diet?? Is there such a thing? Everyone will have a different opinion here but ideally the best diet for you is the one that gets gains, keeps you healthy, has the right combo of nutrients and is somewhat enjoyable.

Drugs have nothing to do with diet!! Diet is food and drugs are drugs.

 

[bambambigalo]

ideal bulk= test e 14 wks and cheeseburgers

ideal cut= test e and cheeseburgers.........something like that. But everyone is different, and this works for me

 

[Chipper Jones78]

Dude... Drol/Tren & D-bol? WTF

 

[King-kong]

8 meals of the most boring food ever is gonna drive you crazy. Personally I have difficulty eating 3 meals - no hunger even on eq or with synth b-12. It sucks.

At least two of your meals are shakes so they are easy to prepare and consume. That two cans of tuna and two cups of rice meal is what I normally do but hate it.
How many calories are you consuming? Carb sources can help to break up your meals. Change rice for baked potato - etc. Are you working out in the morning? If so you might want to add some high glycemic carbs post w/o.

I'd go with dbol - not both. I'm afraid of unnecessary stretch marks that come from some of the orals. It'd be worth it if the results were long lasting but I haven't seen anyone keep anadrol gains. I can tell when someone took anadrol by what they look like 6-8 weeks later. At least with d-bol some people feel good while on it.

Just my opinion and there are a ton of guys here more knowledgeable than me.

 

[peco_12345]

8 meals of the most boring food ever is gonna drive you crazy. Personally I have difficulty eating 3 meals - no hunger even on eq or with synth b-12. It sucks.

At least two of your meals are shakes so they are easy to prepare and consume. That two cans of tuna and two cups of rice meal is what I normally do but hate it.
How many calories are you consuming? Carb sources can help to break up your meals. Change rice for baked potato - etc. Are you working out in the morning? If so you might want to add some high glycemic carbs post w/o.

I'd go with dbol - not both. I'm afraid of unnecessary stretch marks that come from some of the orals. It'd be worth it if the results were long lasting but I haven't seen anyone keep anadrol gains. I can tell when someone took anadrol by what they look like 6-8 weeks later. At least with d-bol some people feel good while on it.

Just my opinion and there are a ton of guys here more knowledgeable than me.

yeah i hear ya, working later in the eveing so i probally wont need the high glycemic carbs. ive taken the drol/dbol combo before with test and thought it was great, strenght was awsome and didnt have any liver issues although ive never done tren so i really dont know. as far as the diet goes, i think i can mentally hold on to it as long as i have a cheat meal once a week and drop a meal or two on that day, i certainly dont wanna overdue the macros, no point in putting on unnessary fat when im gonna have to work my ass off to burn it but some people on tren develop a higher metabolism/appetite and are able to eat alot and put on some clean gains.

macros are as follows

total calories: 4500
fat: 155 grams
protien: 432 grams
carbs 310 grams