So I've been strolling through another board and there is a giant ass thread for running a serm while on cycle like from prohormones to orals. People are saying they didn't really get shut down doing this; and the bloodwork came out much better if they didn't run a serm while doing this. What are people's input on this; I know alot of pro's/bodybuilders are on this board so for gains this is not optimal, but for the regular joe who just wants to look good but at the same time not want to ruin their HPTA too much what are yall views for this protocol. I've seen shit from 8 week T Bol or Anavar cycles run with toremifene or clomid; or D Bol, Anadro or Superdrol run with a low dose of clomid on cycle. I know running test with orals is the way to go but eventually you will get shut down; and some people either recover after pct fully or there HPTA is kind of fucked for 6 months to a year because of the exogenous test; but there are people who have been doing this protocol and didn't really get any crazy shutdown(suppression they did get though) while doing this protocol.