This is very nasty

[Dave_19]

From gear?
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/26/1295356.aspx

 

[GoneForever]

Wow i love how they like to blame it on juice. He would have had this even if he was natty, just not as bad.

 

[xmyb420x]

wtf??

Also, would you let anything like that get that bad before you go see a doc ?

Something doesn't add up with this story

 

[vlad878]

looks like another bullshit scare tactic they are using to try to make ppl think steroids are evil

 

[AWN2004]

looks like another bullshit scare tactic they are using to try to make ppl think steroids are evil

After viewing this article the sad truth of the matter is that this is real. How do I know? I have had the unfortunate affliction that this guy dealt with but not to this level. However, mine was very similar and was on my chest. Mine occured after my HRT had ended which is why you see the pictures of the guy with a severe case of this. It will last for months afterward and you have to see a doctor to get it taken care of. Now, I can take my shirt off and you have to get very close to see some of the scaring but its there. With Pro Tan on you can't see a thing. Just as genetics dictate most factors in bodybuilding they have a huge roll in determining how oily your skin is going to get and how much of a pain acne will be. It's not fun to deal with and very painful. I feel for this kid big time. Something else I might add in is the amount of HRT that I was taking at the time. I was taking 400mg of testosterone and 300mgs of Deca. Thats it. When I look at those photos I remember what I went through and I personaly don't ever want to deal with that shit ever again.

 

[Dave_19]

After viewing this article the sad truth of the matter is that this is real. How do I know? I have had the unfortunate affliction that this guy dealt with but not to this level. However, mine was very similar and was on my chest. Mine occured after my HRT had ended which is why you see the pictures of the guy with a severe case of this. It will last for months afterward and you have to see a doctor to get it taken care of. Now, I can take my shirt off and you have to get very close to see some of the scaring but its there. With Pro Tan on you can't see a thing. Just as genetics dictate most factors in bodybuilding they have a huge roll in determining how oily your skin is going to get and how much of a pain acne will be. It's not fun to deal with and very painful. I feel for this kid big time. Something else I might add in is the amount of HRT that I was taking at the time. I was taking 400mg of testosterone and 300mgs of Deca. Thats it. When I look at those photos I remember what I went through and I personaly don't ever want to deal with that shit ever again.

What is the correlation you think with gear?

 

[AWN2004]

What is the correlation you think with gear?

I never had bad acne when I was younger...ever. A few pimples every now and then but nothing like I got when several years ago. What I got was nodule type acne and only on my chest and shoulders and my back stayed clear....and I mean nothing at all. It was really strange. I never touched gear until I was around 25-26 but prior to when I was in my early 20's I expierenced a bad break out when I really started training hard. I could not for the life of me figure out why my face (which was the only region I broke out) was so broken out. When I went to the doctor he didn't really have an answer but said sometimes some people can break out later in their young adult lives and he put me on antibiotics. That should have been something I paid attention to because I have always had oily skin and so does everyone in my family. I think if you are pre-disposed to this type of skin condition you will really amplify it by 1000 if you take anything androgenic. I would be willing to bet this kid had super oily skin to begin with. Now the difference with mine was that when I first got a couple of these nodules I went to the doctor and learned what I needed to do to make sure I could get this under control. The shitty thing was that it still flared up a little more even after a course of erythromicen (sp) and acutane. Once I reduced the amount of oil that I was producing it has not been a problem since. I still have a couple of small scars under my chest and in other places to remind me of that time.....and it was shitty indeed. Its a horrible time mentaly thats for sure but I a girlfriend who was helping me deal with that and I am a pretty positive person so I weathered the storm. The crappy thing about this is that people will assume you are juicing your ass off and abusing gear which in my case was not true at all. Its just not in my genetics for me to handle certain androgens very well and I have accepted that work and around it. Your health is not something to fuck around with and I ask anyone that has ever dealt with any issues like this to question if what they are doing is worth it. I know I sure did. I hope this did not come off negatively because it really helped me in the long run by learning my body better.

 

[Dave_19]

I never had bad acne when I was younger...ever. A few pimples every now and then but nothing like I got when several years ago. What I got was nodule type acne and only on my chest and shoulders and my back stayed clear....and I mean nothing at all. It was really strange. I never touched gear until I was around 25-26 but prior to when I was in my early 20's I expierenced a bad break out when I really started training hard. I could not for the life of me figure out why my face (which was the only region I broke out) was so broken out. When I went to the doctor he didn't really have an answer but said sometimes some people can break out later in their young adult lives and he put me on antibiotics. That should have been something I paid attention to because I have always had oily skin and so does everyone in my family. I think if you are pre-disposed to this type of skin condition you will really amplify it by 1000 if you take anything androgenic. I would be willing to bet this kid had super oily skin to begin with. Now the difference with mine was that when I first got a couple of these nodules I went to the doctor and learned what I needed to do to make sure I could get this under control. The shitty thing was that it still flared up a little more even after a course of erythromicen (sp) and acutane. Once I reduced the amount of oil that I was producing it has not been a problem since. I still have a couple of small scars under my chest and in other places to remind me of that time.....and it was shitty indeed. Its a horrible time mentaly thats for sure but I a girlfriend who was helping me deal with that and I am a pretty positive person so I weathered the storm. The crappy thing about this is that people will assume you are juicing your ass off and abusing gear which in my case was not true at all. Its just not in my genetics for me to handle certain androgens very well and I have accepted that work and around it. Your health is not something to fuck around with and I ask anyone that has ever dealt with any issues like this to question if what they are doing is worth it. I know I sure did. I hope this did not come off negatively because it really helped me in the long run by learning my body better.

What did prescribe for treatment? Isotretinoin? Topical Antibiotic? That is unfortunate glad you caught it fast..

 

[Syndicate]

What did prescribe for treatment? Isotretinoin? Topical Antibiotic? That is unfortunate glad you caught it fast..

erythromicen (sp) and acutane

I have oily skin too, its very tricky with skin care....

 

[mojo jojo]

Thank you for sharing your story AWN2004. If only your story would be published maybe people could really learn something.

It is unfortunate that the media publishes these dramatized scare tactics stories because after people learn they have been lied too (and omitting essential facts is lying) the source loses all credibility and all information provided by them is completely ignored. This situation creates even more damaging results as an informed person is less likely to be a danger to themselves. Now if an informed person chooses to do things that may be dangerous then that is their decision to make. If something bad should happen to them because of the choices they make you don't then blame the activity or thing they choose to do for the results. It was that persons choice that caused the situation. Unfortunately we live in a time when people often don't take responsibility for their own actions.

AWN2004 as with the publised story, your story shows that there are real dangers out there. Unlike the published story though, yours shows that if you show some personal responsibility you can mitigate the damages of such dangers.

Thank you again for sharing your story.

 

[Jeremy24]

one thing i observed is that even in the first pictures this guy had a case of gyno..........

Anyways i always thought that sides from AAS were sides that your body was prone to. So this guy was probablly prone to bad acne. Just like some people lose hair etc..........

I also think he allowed this to go to far before he had it checked out.....and proper PCT might have somewhat stopped this from happening....

just my 2 cents

 

[Mr.G]

"his testicles were in a sad little shrunken state." the poor guy they had to throw that in as well.

 

[AWN2004]

What did prescribe for treatment? Isotretinoin? Topical Antibiotic? That is unfortunate glad you caught it fast..

Acutane - 80mgs a day followed by 40mgs a day for a follow up. I might add that I had the dose changed (lowered) because I thought it was too much. My skin was so dry and it cracked and was uncomfortable. My lips, eyes, and the surrounding areas around the worse areas on my chest were always dry.
Topical gel (Erythromycin) - as needed

It took a year to recover to where you couldn't really notice anything with my shirt off. Also something else I might add in is that I have spoken with a couple of people that had this type of acne and how they controled the issue. Almost all of the guys used acutane and many ended up having to control estrogen a little more aggresively than most would while on HRT and it really helped. Chris Cook was one that I talked to and he mentioned how bad it would get on the backs of his arms and shoulders but ended up getting it taken care of. Acne is kind of the unspoken problem that nobody talks about when people bring up AAS because of the stigma that follows it around. People just assume you are taking everything under the kitchen sink and thats just not the case. What I found that helps is this........

Stop the problem before it starts by cleaning your skin with something that will also remove the dead layer of skin every time you shower. I use a Neutrogena skin care product that has something to exfoliate. I also use a sea sponge which I found helps for some reason.

Limit androgen use if possible and lean towards items with less of an androgenic edge so to speak. I'm not trying to get overly scientific but I have found a good ratio of androgens to less androgenic compounds helps big time and for me that number is around a 40/60 ratio.

Use a decent anti estrogen and get blood work done. I have found that I am very sensitive to androgens and because of this my blood plasma levels rise pretty high off of a small amount of whatever the MD is prescribing. Because of this, my skin will get extra oily. However, there is a point where I can get very good gains and not really deal with any skin issues but once I go over that number (ng/dl test readings) my skin seems to fight back. Everything you take will effect that number to some degree so you need to take that into consideration. That is a good thing in my opinion because you can take a lot less of something and still get very good gains. It is also much easier on your internal organs, lipids, and overall health.

A diet rich in EFAs (which is a good idea anyway) helps me personaly. I have stayed away from excess carbs and my body seems to respond better to a higher fat diet and this has helped my skin too.

With anything you do that alters your body chemistry it is a roll of the dice in many cases. Even if you take the precautions that most do you can still end up with health problems. You have to listen to your body and know when you might be fighting a losing battle. I sort of look at it this way....If your body is letting you know that what you are doing is hurting it, why keep doing it? Is it because you don't want to shrink up and lose muscle? Forget that madness because in my opinion sacrificing your health for a larger than normal physique is just not worth it.

 

[Grunt76]

I've had average acne as a teenager.

Even test 1g, tren 700mg, masteron 1400mg, only makes my skin oily, not too bad on the acne.

Last autumn I tried nandrolone, and it gave me the most awful cystic acne I couldn't imagine. It lasted over 6 months after discontinuing nandrolone.

For some people, nandrolone is the worst shit ever and the usual "acne" gear doesn't do much harm.

Gotta know how you react.

Oh and 5g of vitamin B5 every day is a freaking miracle, no need to screw up your liver with the accutane, unless you are getting it as bad as this guy.

 

[Sesshomaru]

Thanks for sharing your story and going into detail Awn.

 

[Phidias]

Yes, AWN, very informative posts you made there. Thanks for the precise explanations.

These pics are just SCARY.

 

[blackhole]

thats looks like total BS. people love using these scare tactic stories about ONE BS incident. is it possible that he took some fake shit and had a severe allergic reaction to whatever was in it? yeah dont mention that possibility - blame it on gear. and with ANY medication there are always rare cases with people that have adverse reactions. my uncle took penicillan once and his eyelid blew up like a balloon. how come no one took a picture of that and wrote a story about how awful anti-biotics are? lmao. media loves to manipulate stories for sensationalism, and dont care what kind of warped mis-information they give the public

 

[AWN2004]

thats looks like total BS. people love using these scare tactic stories about ONE BS incident. is it possible that he took some fake shit and had a severe allergic reaction to whatever was in it? yeah dont mention that possibility - blame it on gear. and with ANY medication there are always rare cases with people that have adverse reactions. my uncle took penicillan once and his eyelid blew up like a balloon. how come no one took a picture of that and wrote a story about how awful anti-biotics are? lmao. media loves to manipulate stories for sensationalism, and dont care what kind of warped mis-information they give the public

I agree with what you are saying in many ways but aside from the author trying to make it seem like if you pop one tab of anavar that you are going to be scared for life, this can happen. Maybe not to this degree, but something like this is very possible. Its a very bad case that has been poorly showcased in order to try and prove some moot point that has been beaten to death by our media as of late. Something else I might add as well........

He has some gyno in the first couple of pics so my guess is that he was dealing with estrogen issues prior to comming off whatever he was taking. Drastic fluctuations in your hormone levels cause your body to freak out and in many cases acne soon follows. Being that this kid was only 21 I'm sure the last thing on his mind was to go see a doctor. Its embarassing and then you have to come to terms with telling the doctor what caused this to happen. I'd be willing to bet anything that this kid wasn't breaking out that bad when he was on but about 4-6 weeks post cycle, he broke out like he had the chicken pox. There are so many variables this story does not tell and most likely many who view this will be smart enough to realize that not everyone who uses an anabolic drug will end up with the equivilant of chemical burns on their chest. Just my opinion.

 

[syntheticmuscle]

From gear?
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/26/1295356.aspx[/QUOTE

Man that's bad...his acne looks horribly painful also

 

[maldorf]

Ive seen some theories too that some of this is caused by impurities in the oil based steroid injections. With all of the home brewed and underground stuff going around, there might be some truth to it. Just speculation though.