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Wal-mart chicken and beef

People rant and rave about 'steroid' injected beef but they dont give two shits about antibiotics or whatever else the animal was injected with prior to slaughter. It amazes me how little people care about what they put in their mouth.
I can buy spring mix, organic for $2.99 at fresh market... and $3.29 for non-organic at walmart....so dont tell me walmart is cheaper. They get you thinking that, you get lazy and then they hit your wallet.

EDIT: GATORS I LOVE that avitar in your sig! cracks me up.
My family has been in the cattle business for over 40 years. We raise calves up to feedlot ready size, then they go to the midwest to feed corn then slaughter. I know that we use very little if any antibiotic, usually penicillin, if the critter is sick. I don't think the vaccinations we give are anything bad, might be required by law to do a couple of them. The wormer and insecticide though could be a issue, and we do not use any hormones. What happens to them once they leave the property i'm not sure, maybe they do keep them jacked up on hormones and antibiotic, the stress of getting them out there is bound to cause some sickness.

I eat a lot of venison, in fact, just got in from making venison (30%) sausage, we usually make 4-5000 lbs. Can't buy it, anywhere, as good as we make it, and as additive free as we do. No, i don't eat that much sausage :D a bunch of us make it together...
 
Unless you're buying certified organic and paying 3x the price, the food you're buying from Walmart or from the fancier supermarket in the expensive neighborhood probably comes from the same place.

I agree with this statement. My father works for a poultry processing plant and no matter if the package has a different company name on it or if the product says drug free on it, it's still all the same product.
 
I buy chicken from local farmers markets (usually pay $1.69 a pound), eggs from local specialty markets that buy their eggs from local farms (organic/hormone free), steak from Costco (fair price on top round) unless it is on sale at a meat market, and all my dry stuff from Costco and aldi, egg whites from Costco.

I would love to be able to eat top of the line everything (organic, hormone free, etc) but I simply can't afford it, SO what I did was desgined my diet around this.

I eat meat once a day (either chicken or red meat), I have two whole egg meals, I have 2 protein shakes daily made with egg whites and whey, I use EVOO and Coconut oil for my fat sources, and my carbs come from Gatorade and/or pasta like pastaroni.

The way I viewed it was if I can't eat top of the line everything all the time, I will minimize the "bad" shit and still have a "good" diet.
 
I wouldn't touch walmarts garbage meat with a 10ft poll. I buy from local farmers because I know how they raise their animals and its not much more expensive than the toxic crap you get from walmart
 
Now That Obama Is Allowing Chicken From China, What Will That Do To The Chicken Industry?
By Michael Snyder, on December 11th, 2013


Do you know what is in your chicken nuggets? Thanks to Barack Obama, that is going to be a more important question than ever. At the end of August, the Obama administration quietly decided to start allowing Chinese poultry processors to ship processed chicken into the United States. For now, the meat must originate either in the United States or in another country where the poultry population has been certified to be safe. What that means is that chickens from the United States will be shipped all the way over to China, processed in plants over there, and then shipped back across the Pacific Ocean for us to eat. Only a limited number of companies are expected to take advantage of this, but according to U.S. Senator Charles Schumer, a USDA report that Congress has seen indicates that China will likely be allowed to directly import their own chickens into this country "within a year". What makes all of this even more disturbing is that a country-of-origin label will not be required on any of the chicken that is processed in China. So in the years ahead you could be eating chicken processed in China and not even know it.

Each year, U.S. consumers spend about 70 billion dollars on chicken. That is a tremendous amount of money, and the U.S. chicken industry supports a huge number of jobs.

So what is going to happen if cheap chicken from China starts flooding the market?

It shouldn't take too much imagination to figure out what is going to happen. This is a movie that we have seen too many times before. Over the past decade, tens of thousands of U.S. businesses and millions of good paying jobs have been lost due to "competition" from communist China.

Barack Obama continues to talk a good game about how he wants to "create jobs" for American workers, but just about everything that he actually does kills even more of our jobs.

Under tremendous pressure from both China and the beef industry, Obama decided in late August to open up the door for processed chicken from China. The following is a brief excerpt from a recent Examiner article...

As early as next summer, chicken nuggets and other chicken products (such as canned soup, frozen chicken wings and breaded chicken patties) made from chicken processed in China could be sold in grocery stores around the country.

Under the proposal, chickens that are raised and slaughtered in the U.S. and Canada will be sent to China for processing and then returned to the U.S. for mass consumption.

This was a recent decision made by President Barack Obama to address a decade-long trade dispute. Since 2003, China has refused to import U.S. beef, citing concerns over mad-cow disease, so we're effectively trading chickens for beef in this quid-pro-quo political scenario. Obama has been widely criticized over this move.

This would be bad enough even if U.S. consumers were able to identify the chicken that is coming in from China. But according to Politico, there will be no requirement that chicken processed in China be labeled as such...

Well, for starters Chinese-processed chicken will be allowed to skip the ‘Product of China’ label in several instances because the country of origin labeling law, or “COOL,” does not regulate cooked meat — and at least for now, the U.S. does not import raw chicken raised and/or slaughtered in China.

A lot of people are very upset about this because there have been some huge safety concerns about food coming from China. Just check out the following examples included in a recent Huffington Post article...

Among those critics is Tony Corbo, a senior lobbyist for the advocacy group Food and Water Watch. “This is the first step towards allowing China to export its own domestic chickens to the U.S.,” he told the Times.

Corbo has reason to be concerned; in the last months alone, Chinese police discovered an illegal food smuggling plot to sell 46-year-old chicken feet treated with bleach, a criminal ring accused of selling rat and fox meat as lamb and abnormally high levels of cadmium, a metal that can cause cancer and other illnesses, in rice sold in Guangzhou restaurants.

And the safety incidents the Dallas Morning News recently discussed are more than a little bit alarming...

Tilapia and cod are raised in ponds and dosed with antibiotics and growth hormones. Imported Chinese apple juice reportedly contains three times the federal limit for arsenic in water. U.S. inspectors have also found tainted mushrooms and garlic.

The communist behemoth raised and shipped 80 percent of the tilapia consumed in this country in 2011, 51 percent of the cod, 49 percent of the apple juice, 34 percent of the processed mushrooms and 27 percent of the garlic.

-----

The European Union reported that China shipped potatoes infested with insects, ginger laced with salmonella, pumpkin seeds containing glass chips and frozen calamari contaminated by arsenic to Europe last year.

USDA officials halted imports of Chinese shrimp, eel, catfish and carp in 2007 because of high levels of illegal antibiotics and chemicals. Three years later, officials seized thousands of pounds of Chinese honey after finding illegal antibiotics. And this year, more than 500 dogs and a handful of cats died after eating jerky treats made of chicken, according to an investigation by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

In light of all of these incidents, shouldn't U.S. consumers be able to clearly identify chicken that is coming from China?

Authorities tell us that we can expect to have chicken from China starting to show up on our store shelves this upcoming summer. Apparently, the big advantage of processing chicken in China is the lower cost...

Processing chicken is a labor-intensive endeavor that can’t be done solely by machines and the “lower cost in China is the advantage,” Chris Hurt, a professor of agricultural economics at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, said in a telephone interview. Those savings in labor costs can counterbalance the higher price tag to ship the end product, Hurt said.

And most Americans don't realize this, but China already sends 4 billion pounds of food to the United States every year.

So why don't we just go ahead and get it all over with and just send all of our jobs over to China right now?

After all, very few people seem to be concerned about the fate of average American workers at this point. Things just continue to get even worse for them, and the middle class is being absolutely eviscerated.

Let's just go ahead and ship the rest of our good paying jobs over there and be done with it. Then we can all cut hair, flip burgers and stock shelves at Wal-Mart.

And most Americans already know that something has gone terribly wrong with our economy.

According to a brand new Bloomberg National Poll, 64 percent of all Americans believe that "the U.S. no longer offers everyone an equal chance to get ahead", and according to a different national survey that was recently conducted 68 percent of all Americans believe that the country is currently on the wrong track.

We are a nation that is absolutely drowning in debt, that has a financial system that has been turned into a high stakes casino, and that has a middle class that is being systematically destroyed.

Personally, I am extremely concerned about this upcoming two year time period. The conditions for a "perfect storm" are all coming together for 2014 and 2015. I believe that this nation (and the world) will look far different two years from now than it does today.
 
Well this thread evolved into a conspiracy theory thread awfully quickly.

To the guy with the car analogy...
Stupidest comparison I've ever heard in my life. Thank you for that.

There's one whole food store where I live and it's seriously just a hole in the wall. They have some grass fed ground beef there for the low price of 12 dollars a pound. Sorry but, no thanks, I'd rather pay 1/4 the price at walmart for beef. I get the argument, but people who say it's easy and everyone can do it are just being ignorant ass holes. Not everyone has money for that and not everyone can access it easily.
 
I can typically get chicken at Albertsons around $2.99/lb and skirt steak around $5/lb. If their prices go up i go to the local Mexican market for the above year around prices, same product/quality i would say. When i think of Walmart the last thing i think of is produce shopping. Is Target going to be the next supermarket? lol
 
My family has been in the cattle business for over 40 years. We raise calves up to feedlot ready size, then they go to the midwest to feed corn then slaughter. I know that we use very little if any antibiotic, usually penicillin, if the critter is sick. I don't think the vaccinations we give are anything bad, might be required by law to do a couple of them. The wormer and insecticide though could be a issue, and we do not use any hormones. What happens to them once they leave the property i'm not sure, maybe they do keep them jacked up on hormones and antibiotic, the stress of getting them out there is bound to cause some sickness.

I eat a lot of venison, in fact, just got in from making venison (30%) sausage, we usually make 4-5000 lbs. Can't buy it, anywhere, as good as we make it, and as additive free as we do. No, i don't eat that much sausage :D a bunch of us make it together...

I just ran out of a 6 month supply of organic beef a couple friends and some family members bought. The guy we get it from loves to talk our ears off, show us how he raises his beef, lamb, and chickens. That kind of information should be voluteered, but you ask Walmart folks about how the meat they are selling was raised and they have no clue. I respect the hell out of farmers who care how they grow their crops or raise their beef or whatever meat it is. Kudos. :cool:
 
Now That Obama Is Allowing Chicken From China, What Will That Do To The Chicken Industry?
By Michael Snyder, on December 11th, 2013


Do you know what is in your chicken nuggets? Thanks to Barack Obama, that is going to be a more important question than ever. At the end of August, the Obama administration quietly decided to start allowing Chinese poultry processors to ship processed chicken into the United States. For now, the meat must originate either in the United States or in another country where the poultry population has been certified to be safe. What that means is that chickens from the United States will be shipped all the way over to China, processed in plants over there, and then shipped back across the Pacific Ocean for us to eat. Only a limited number of companies are expected to take advantage of this, but according to U.S. Senator Charles Schumer, a USDA report that Congress has seen indicates that China will likely be allowed to directly import their own chickens into this country "within a year". What makes all of this even more disturbing is that a country-of-origin label will not be required on any of the chicken that is processed in China. So in the years ahead you could be eating chicken processed in China and not even know it.

Each year, U.S. consumers spend about 70 billion dollars on chicken. That is a tremendous amount of money, and the U.S. chicken industry supports a huge number of jobs.

So what is going to happen if cheap chicken from China starts flooding the market?

It shouldn't take too much imagination to figure out what is going to happen. This is a movie that we have seen too many times before. Over the past decade, tens of thousands of U.S. businesses and millions of good paying jobs have been lost due to "competition" from communist China.

Barack Obama continues to talk a good game about how he wants to "create jobs" for American workers, but just about everything that he actually does kills even more of our jobs.

Under tremendous pressure from both China and the beef industry, Obama decided in late August to open up the door for processed chicken from China. The following is a brief excerpt from a recent Examiner article...

As early as next summer, chicken nuggets and other chicken products (such as canned soup, frozen chicken wings and breaded chicken patties) made from chicken processed in China could be sold in grocery stores around the country.

Under the proposal, chickens that are raised and slaughtered in the U.S. and Canada will be sent to China for processing and then returned to the U.S. for mass consumption.

This was a recent decision made by President Barack Obama to address a decade-long trade dispute. Since 2003, China has refused to import U.S. beef, citing concerns over mad-cow disease, so we're effectively trading chickens for beef in this quid-pro-quo political scenario. Obama has been widely criticized over this move.

This would be bad enough even if U.S. consumers were able to identify the chicken that is coming in from China. But according to Politico, there will be no requirement that chicken processed in China be labeled as such...

Well, for starters Chinese-processed chicken will be allowed to skip the ‘Product of China’ label in several instances because the country of origin labeling law, or “COOL,” does not regulate cooked meat — and at least for now, the U.S. does not import raw chicken raised and/or slaughtered in China.

A lot of people are very upset about this because there have been some huge safety concerns about food coming from China. Just check out the following examples included in a recent Huffington Post article...

Among those critics is Tony Corbo, a senior lobbyist for the advocacy group Food and Water Watch. “This is the first step towards allowing China to export its own domestic chickens to the U.S.,” he told the Times.

Corbo has reason to be concerned; in the last months alone, Chinese police discovered an illegal food smuggling plot to sell 46-year-old chicken feet treated with bleach, a criminal ring accused of selling rat and fox meat as lamb and abnormally high levels of cadmium, a metal that can cause cancer and other illnesses, in rice sold in Guangzhou restaurants.

And the safety incidents the Dallas Morning News recently discussed are more than a little bit alarming...

Tilapia and cod are raised in ponds and dosed with antibiotics and growth hormones. Imported Chinese apple juice reportedly contains three times the federal limit for arsenic in water. U.S. inspectors have also found tainted mushrooms and garlic.

The communist behemoth raised and shipped 80 percent of the tilapia consumed in this country in 2011, 51 percent of the cod, 49 percent of the apple juice, 34 percent of the processed mushrooms and 27 percent of the garlic.

-----

The European Union reported that China shipped potatoes infested with insects, ginger laced with salmonella, pumpkin seeds containing glass chips and frozen calamari contaminated by arsenic to Europe last year.

USDA officials halted imports of Chinese shrimp, eel, catfish and carp in 2007 because of high levels of illegal antibiotics and chemicals. Three years later, officials seized thousands of pounds of Chinese honey after finding illegal antibiotics. And this year, more than 500 dogs and a handful of cats died after eating jerky treats made of chicken, according to an investigation by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

In light of all of these incidents, shouldn't U.S. consumers be able to clearly identify chicken that is coming from China?

Authorities tell us that we can expect to have chicken from China starting to show up on our store shelves this upcoming summer. Apparently, the big advantage of processing chicken in China is the lower cost...

Processing chicken is a labor-intensive endeavor that can’t be done solely by machines and the “lower cost in China is the advantage,” Chris Hurt, a professor of agricultural economics at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, said in a telephone interview. Those savings in labor costs can counterbalance the higher price tag to ship the end product, Hurt said.

And most Americans don't realize this, but China already sends 4 billion pounds of food to the United States every year.

So why don't we just go ahead and get it all over with and just send all of our jobs over to China right now?

After all, very few people seem to be concerned about the fate of average American workers at this point. Things just continue to get even worse for them, and the middle class is being absolutely eviscerated.

Let's just go ahead and ship the rest of our good paying jobs over there and be done with it. Then we can all cut hair, flip burgers and stock shelves at Wal-Mart.

And most Americans already know that something has gone terribly wrong with our economy.

According to a brand new Bloomberg National Poll, 64 percent of all Americans believe that "the U.S. no longer offers everyone an equal chance to get ahead", and according to a different national survey that was recently conducted 68 percent of all Americans believe that the country is currently on the wrong track.

We are a nation that is absolutely drowning in debt, that has a financial system that has been turned into a high stakes casino, and that has a middle class that is being systematically destroyed.

Personally, I am extremely concerned about this upcoming two year time period. The conditions for a "perfect storm" are all coming together for 2014 and 2015. I believe that this nation (and the world) will look far different two years from now than it does today.

we went over this in the US chicken thread
 
My family has been in the cattle business for over 40 years. We raise calves up to feedlot ready size, then they go to the midwest to feed corn then slaughter. I know that we use very little if any antibiotic, usually penicillin, if the critter is sick. I don't think the vaccinations we give are anything bad, might be required by law to do a couple of them. The wormer and insecticide though could be a issue, and we do not use any hormones. What happens to them once they leave the property i'm not sure, maybe they do keep them jacked up on hormones and antibiotic, the stress of getting them out there is bound to cause some sickness.

I eat a lot of venison, in fact, just got in from making venison (30%) sausage, we usually make 4-5000 lbs. Can't buy it, anywhere, as good as we make it, and as additive free as we do. No, i don't eat that much sausage :D a bunch of us make it together...

Finishing they are pumped with estrogen, feed corn but it gives them infections. ..so they are pumped full of antibiotics.
 
With President Obama all I can afford is Wallmart, Damn times have changed....
 
I saved a website someone posted where you can find grass fed farmers and local farmers markets in your hometown. I can hardly wait to check it out next weekend. Also, getting beef from a friend from school which is not but 20 mins away. I should have been thinking like this years ago.

On another not, anyone try skinnybeef? just wondering cause I saw it being promoted by a guy for a while now.
 
Finishing they are pumped with estrogen, feed corn but it gives them infections. ..so they are pumped full of antibiotics.
Corn does not give infections, but the stress getting there and the environment they're in during the corn feed does. We've fed them out ourselves years back, didn't have that issue, different scenario tho...
 
The ONLY time I buy meats from Wal-Mart is when I am on a super strict budget. As a college student, I'm already on a budget anyway. However, It has to be of last resort to go to Wal-Mart for Chicken Breast. The taste is evident too. You can just tell that something is not quite right. Literally have to drown my Chicken in hot sauce when I get it from Wal-Mart. Ugh the thought of those…….I would almost rather eat Tuna. And Tuna is something I despise.
 
Corn does not give infections, but the stress getting there and the environment they're in during the corn feed does. We've fed them out ourselves years back, didn't have that issue, different scenario tho...

I thought corn changes the flora in the cows gut that is more prone to infections thus they have to be pumped full of antibiotics...
 
i did not read the whole thread ,

for those that want to know about ground beef i can tell you this ,

walmart which has commodity ground beef is pretty nasty.

what your getting when buying commodity beef is all the scraps ….

very nasty process, there are harsh chemicals used to remove the meat from the bones… also lips, ass holes , and scull meat.

Sad but true
 
I thought corn changes the flora in the cows gut that is more prone to infections thus they have to be pumped full of antibiotics...

Ive read this, along with only feeding corn cause infection in one of the cows stomach. Im sure stress and poor living conditions have a lot to do with it as well.
 
Corn does not give infections, but the stress getting there and the environment they're in during the corn feed does. We've fed them out ourselves years back, didn't have that issue, different scenario tho...

Have you only feed corn? I've never raised cows, but from what ive read and talked to farmers...they are more sensitive than horses. And in the winter we had to give horses hay with grain or they would get the same infections. Cattle are not given hay when finished.
 
Localharvest.com and realtimefarms.com are a couple sources that might be helpful for some.
 

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