What would you do?

[BigBoyJ]

I want to take something to keep my joints and tendons strong and healthy as I get back into fighting. I've heard gh and igf are both great for joints and tendons. My question is, if you could only afford one, which one would you choose. Of course, fat loss is always a welcome benefit too. So for the overall benefits and cost, what's better? Or is there something else that would be even better than gh and igf? I used alflutop with good results, but I want to try something else. Gh and igf are both new to me.

 

[Big Bapper]

Deca if there is no testing.

 

[thebrick]

isn't EQ good for that as well?

 

[bigdan]

ALFLUTOP is great and not expensive

 

[Flex4777]

DEFINATELY AFLUTOP!!!

 

[BigBoyJ]

Yeah, I know all about the alflutop and eq and deca. I recently ran a cycle of test, eq and alflutop with very good results. I was just wondering what would be the best between gh and igf.

 

[gassy]

I have impingments in my shoulder, basicly the bottom of my collar bone is rubbing against bicep tendon. Four years ago I had surgery on my left shoulder to fix this, now my right shoulder is getting bad. Deca and GH have helped a little, a cortisone shot makes it feel great for a few weeks. Does anyone know if aflutop can help with this sort of joint problem? Thanks in advance.

 

[sablya]

What's the right pin to use with alflutop? Is IM near the trouble spot the best approach? Like, if my right elbow is hurting, into the bicep?

 

[BigBoyJ]

What's the right pin to use with alflutop? Is IM near the trouble spot the best approach? Like, if my right elbow is hurting, into the bicep?

Yeah, IM as close to the problem spots as you can get. I just used a 25 g 1''. It's good stuff.

As for impingement, I don't think it helps. I also have rotator cuff impingement and I can't say alflutop did much to help it. I've learned to work around it. I just can't do any overhead movements.

 

[sszapdog]

google adequan

 

[BigBoyJ]

google adequan

I tried like a mother to find adequan before I bought the alflutop. It seems the stuff is damn near impossible to get anymore.

 

[haze324]

Hey brother I coach Sub-Wrestling and grapple 3x a week and when taking GH I do feel my joints somewhat better and when I've added IGF with the GH I've felt no difference in the joints - just in the muscle and fat department.

As far as your impingement goes. Same here man - I even tore my rotator and somedays I'm a little hesitant with my shoulder, but lately I've felt good - some pressing movements feel funny and I don't do them (flat bench w/a bar) but rolling I've felt good. never tried aflutop.

 

[gassy]

Yeah, IM as close to the problem spots as you can get. I just used a 25 g 1''. It's good stuff.

As for impingement, I don't think it helps. I also have rotator cuff impingement and I can't say alflutop did much to help it. I've learned to work around it. I just can't do any overhead movements.

Disappointing news. I think I may give it a shot anyway I'm so desperate. Thanks

 

[G.E.R.M]

..

gh over igf...

 

[BigBoyJ]

Yeah, Haze, I've dislocated both of my shoulders (the left one twice) and torn both rotator cuffs. Rolling isn't a problem for me either. Sometimes I can feel it a little while punching, but no big deal.

Thank's, Germ.

 

[IBBAdmin]

GH can and does stiffen you up ! But it will do what you need !

 

[BigBoyJ]

GH can and does stiffen you up ! But it will do what you need !

Really? I never heard that before. Does it create muscle stiffness or what?

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

Yeah, IM as close to the problem spots as you can get. I just used a 25 g 1''. It's good stuff.

As for impingement, I don't think it helps. I also have rotator cuff impingement and I can't say alflutop did much to help it. I've learned to work around it. I just can't do any overhead movements.

just being nosy here, and I don't mean to jack your thread, but what do you do for shoulders if no overhead type of presses?

 

[BigBoyJ]

just being nosy here, and I don't mean to jack your thread, but what do you do for shoulders if no overhead type of presses?

Upright rows and lateral raise. I can go heavy on those lifts, but ANY amount of weight overhead kills me.