Whats safest AAS

[GoneForever]

I decided im gonna just stay on trt and run some GH at 2-3iu's ED for good. I've been able to keep about %90 of my gains from previous cycles by just using 150mg cyp and 3iu's of GH, so I figure mine as well play it safe and be healthy for now on. Now that im gonna draw blood every month i'll have perfect rbc's and hemoglobin and thats really the only thing that was negative on my bloodwork. Everything else shows near perfect. BUT is there something else I can add to my hrt, not forever, but for like 1/2 the year that isnt gonna have any negative sides? Im thinking my only options are maybe a low dose of primo like 400-500mg per week? Does primo have any negative sides at that dose other than increasing rbc's which i'll be able to take care of? Maybe eq would be a better choice?

 

[rolnoles]

I think anavar is about as safe as you will get but it is for cutting and strenght,not bulk.My first three cycles were EQ and anavar and I have gained 20lbs of muscle in 18 months and got fairly cut,without a hardcore diet.i am very pleased with them both but anavar is costly.

 

[V3ng3anc333]

var isnt a good choice - to much stress on the liver.
EQ isnt worth it IMO + RBC is already your main concern. Its not gonna get better with EQ


my vote would go to masterone Enathate. Really great drug.

In the end everybody reacts diffrent to AAS so only you can say for sure which steroid you tolerate best.

 

[path2greatness]

I like this question a lot, very interesting. I know a BB who is on HRT and cycles on and off anavar almost all year long. He has watched his liver values consistently and by doing a 4 weeks on 4 weeks off pattern at about 25-40mg they have remained in range. He seems to think that Var is better than other drugs at increasing IGF-1 although I'm not sure that this makes any sense. Primo on the other hand would not really have this problem and it seems that lots of guys(who can afford it) do long cycles with it. I'm not using AS anymore but I still enjoy talking and reading about it. Is that weird? Maybe it's just the scientist in me (though he wears converse all stars and is 10 years old so maybe we shouldn't lend him much credence...) After all I am a newb

 

[buselmo]

Primo is safe, but it's kinda not worth due to the price (unless you can get it pretty cheap), but have you ever thought of using a little deca in there? 400 mg? I always hear about people hating deca because of impotence while on if they are really sensitive to it, but if you aren't, i don't see why not? it's one of the safest steroids out there.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

you need to look into how the gear will effect your hdl/ldl levels. over the long term, anavar will probably skew this.

V3ng3anc333 has a good point about masteron enanthate.

it would increase the effectiveness of the HRT by binding shbg, resulting in more free test. it will also keep you harder on the test.

especially when you are on long term, i think masteron keeps the other stuff working.

proviron is also another option. it will have the same effect on shbg and can give a feeling of well being.

 

[GoneForever]

proviron will already be added to my hrt at 25mg daily
Deca is pretty hard on the lipids if im correct?

Not gonna use var b/c it kills lipids and to me thats even more of a concern that liver.

Eq seems like the option here im thinking b/c if its only side is increased rbc's, I can get them down with very frequent blood draws

Or there is always primo as well. I guess im debating between the 2.

 

[V3ng3anc333]

have you ever run primo?

I did but prefer Masterone as far as gains AND side effects are concernd.
Primo isnt worth it + not everyone tolerates it very well.

deca isnt to hard on the lipids. but if you plan on having kids sometimes in the future - which i think not - then i would stay away from deca. Nor-Steroids are the ones most likely to cause permanent infertility. Otherwise deca seems pretty safe..

 

[Ness]

Ever looked at tbol?

 

[GoneForever]

Ever looked at tbol?

Love it but its extremely brutal on the lipids.


So im debating now between eq and deca. Primo is gonna cost way too much and i'll have to use a lot for desired effects. If I do deca it will be NPP b/c I dont like the bloat regular deca gives. But im kinda stuck between that and eq now. Eq seems like it will be virtually side effect free if I draw blood montly and monitor my rbcs.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

one unique side of EQ is some people get a slight edgy feeling. if you have anxiety issues it can make it worse.

if you get this reaction, it might get sorta annoying in the long-term.

 

[GoneForever]

^^^ luckily I dont have a prob with that.
So looks like im gonna have to do some indepth research about eq's sides v.s. deca's sides for long term use and health issues. Man where do I start lol its gonna be a long night.

 

[MightyJohn]

With price a concern I'd have to say EQ...also the fact that EQ is so long acting & dosed 200-300/cc...that would be My choice

 

[theworm]

I think anavar is about as safe as you will get but it is for cutting and strenght,not bulk.My first three cycles were EQ and anavar and I have gained 20lbs of muscle in 18 months and got fairly cut,without a hardcore diet.i am very pleased with them both but anavar is costly.

can you outline this cycle for me please, dosages and length? thanks!

 

[paulwigan]

if i was gonna use something long term it would be deca cause i would have to go with human grade.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

if i was gonna use something long term it would be deca cause i would have to go with human grade.

Testosterone is safe enough but can also be rough on lipids but if I was looking for something to add to the mix for a few months a year, it would certainly be one of the pharmaceutical nandrolones.

 

[GoneForever]

well deca has been around since the beginning and its been plenty of time to see if its gonna cause crazy shit down the road like test as well, so looks like those are the safest choices. Im gonna look more into eq still, but deca's gains far outweigh eq if im gonna bulk but for cutting I may have to go with eq.

 

[rolnoles]

One thing about EQ and VAR is what I gain I keep 100%.I have people ask me what Im on all the time and i tell them nothing been off for two months.But the gains are slower then deca"what I was told never took it"But for me 5 to 7 lbs of muscle every 12 weeks is fine,I started 4 years ago at 33 years old 165lbs now Im 37 5'11 210 and in better shape then when i was 20years old.Still dont know crap about this game I learn something new from you guys every day,and worm i dont think we can lay out cycles for people but check around and read what some people post.If I am allowed to Ill let you know.