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Not sure most guys would agree that bodybuilding"should" be optical illusion
The MILLIONS of cbum fans would HIGHLY disagree with you.
I don't know that Cbum being popular means his fans don't want to be big dudes. I think 99% of guys want to be big dudes. They just want first to be shapely and sexy naked, and secondarily big. Plus, Cbum is like 6'1? Pretty well built dude with clothes on.
I'd like to see Bumstead next to Derek, Hadi, Samson. I've wondered how that would be judged.
I dont see those clean lines with very thin skin anymore anywhere. You cant mix it with anything. Unique look very few had.5ft2 (like Shaun Clarida) but 200 fucking pounds. This motherfucker was legendary
I'll say this - if you do a bodybuilding show on the street and Cbum and Markus Ruhl are in their prime, who do you think more people will follow?
Markus also has the gift of self-deprecating humor. That combined with his incredible mass makes him what he was/is. A monster, but approachable.
Flex wheeler is a perfect example of this. At 1993 Mr Olympia he was like 223 lbs. I ve seen him at his heaviest at 255, although bigger, would rather walk around daily at the 223 version. Flex has small joints and as much muscle as most guys up there, in the videos. Alone it causes him to stand out. Next to Ronnie or Chris Cormier , in the 1998 or 1999 Olympia , the thinner bones create a smaller look next to them , and his muscle appear to pop more, due to as much muscle , with smaller joints.
I d be open for that idea. Classic physique does have a height and weight class. Height only would be fine. 5ft6 and under, 5ft 6- 6 ft. 6ft 1 and up. The real tall guys 6ft 4 and up would still love to out of place so I guess something like 6ft 4 and up as well which wouldn't have any or hardly any competitors .
I never said they do. You missed the point, from a PR marketing stance what winning multiple 212 Mr. O titles will make you much more memorable and money with the rest of the world than the runner up winners in open.
I never said they do. You missed the point, from a PR marketing stance what winning multiple 212 Mr. O titles will make you much more memorable and money with the rest of the world than the runner up winners in open.
Kai sells e books now and is a rare exception as he’s maintained his size in retirement. What’s Dennis Wolf doing? We didn’t hear from him for years.
Flex Lewis sits ring side at UFC fights, has a top bodybuilding gym in the world, a podcast and sits on top panels of stages talking about life and business. Being a multiple O champion coupled with his mindset and work ethic got him much farther in life.
In the bodybuilding world we will never know if he was “better” or not because he never competed in open. Which is the point of this whole thread. Wish he had of.
It was actually Jay's podcast with guest Shawn Ray that brought this topic up and made me post about it. Also the other topic of cbum going to open.
No, ass Lee Priest was suppose to be ask Lee Priest.
Yeah I have seen him on there and was just making the point he doesn’t have nearly the exposure as Flex Lewis does.
Cool story when you hear it all.X2!
I never said they do. You missed the point, from a PR marketing stance what winning multiple 212 Mr. O titles will make you much more memorable and money with the rest of the world than the runner up winners in open.
Kai sells e books now and is a rare exception as he’s maintained his size in retirement. What’s Dennis Wolf doing? We didn’t hear from him for years.
Flex Lewis sits ring side at UFC fights, has a top bodybuilding gym in the world, a podcast and sits on top panels of stages talking about life and business. Being a multiple O champion coupled with his mindset and work ethic got him much farther in life.
In the bodybuilding world we will never know if he was “better” or not because he never competed in open. Which is the point of this whole thread. Wish he had of.
