Anavar Dilemma

[Mufasa123]

I do fine on orals. HDL is hit a bit (more/less depends on compound) and liver is higher but either in range or a few pts out. Despite all that an old favorite dbol makes me tired by the 2nd week for some reason not related to liver and even down to 15ish mg daily. Who knows so I don't use it anymore. Probably what I'd suggest to you with anavar.

I still use anadrol, anavar, and winstrol. Honestly though, I don't think anavar is nearly as "safe and side free" as it was billed. Still 17aa and hits HDL solidly. Pumps suck too if they get bad. I like it mainly for strength when I'm limiting weight gain. Even then winny beats it in strength, less HDL impact, no issue with back pumps for me, look is flat out better...i have a ton of var and I'm kind of struggling to want to use it.

Anadrol, just don't find myself in a big strength phase. Took a fluke injury before I started my last strength phase as I'd planned to run it.

I have plenty of all and other than just to mess around or maybe run a combo of orals, it's hard for me to rationalize using them and if I use them, to use anything other than winstrol.

 

[TomJ]

I am not generally a fan of orals at all.
I love how anadrol ramps up my training for a short period, but as someone who already struggles with food volume, the hit on my appetite and digestion from it just makes it more trouble than its worth for me after only a few weeks.

anavar id only used once before in the off season and didnt particularly notice any lethargy, but it did heavily impact my lipids more than i expected. Training felt good while i ran it, but end of the day i didnt feel like it gave me much, so that coupled with the blood markers i just hadnt used it since.

all other orals ive only used in contest prep, winny proviron and halo, and i cant say in good faith that i really noticed anything at all from any of them other then the cosmetic effects. It could have been that they simply offset the drop in training capacity and strength from being at the end of prep and i would have been much weaker without them, but honestly i felt the same through the time i used them.

The only thing that routinely makes me feel any lethargy is NPP, but its never terrible or a detriment enough for me to opt for a different compound.



Are there no other compounds that makes you feel lethargic? Or does it seem like anavar is the only culprit?

 

[aimanabolic]

I only run Anavar pre-workout sublingual. Never felt anything negative from it.

 

[qbkilla]

Love anvar but worry about it's effects on kidneys. When I used 80mg years ago was protein in my urine... stopped the var went away. Wish we had a definitive answer on if it is bad for them relative to other AAS seems to be no consensus

 

[lifter]

I've never ran a bunch of things at once. Typically Test as a base and another injectable anabolic. This time it was Test Cyp and Primo. My draw to Anavar was the alleged side effect free, mild anabolic and my age. I'm not young anymore so I'm trying to avoid stronger compounds. I want to feel good, not just look good. Most times I've ran it, I'm cutting. At this point in my life I'm not doing much if any bulking cycles. Just trying to stay lean and hard.

Could be the age factor. I could run whatever the hell I wanted in my 20s and 30s and now most orals also make me feel like crap and not worth it IMO. Strange that you get less sides with something like anadrol though. That one is a head scratcher.

 

[Tomgrass]

It’s likely just the dosage knowing that. While it is milder in side effects it is still a DHT derivative.

It is also still liver toxic even though a good percentage of it is excreted through the kidneys. You could check glutathione and injectable EOD to offset any issues here.

It doesn’t aromatize so are not e2 issues.

It also has a positive impact on dopamine.

Knowing all this it’s likely dosage and could potentially be a mild mast cell aggravation causing the issue which could easily be checked by using things I mentioned in my histamine thread.

My personal opinion- I think there are better options and would just use a different compound if it’s giving you issues. Especially knowing it can drop HDL up to 50%.

Regarding dopamine - i always felt amazing on anavar - no wonder.

 

[LK3]

if it doesnt agree with you why push it?
if other drugs work better use them.
sometimes people just respond differently sometimes.
i played with low dose drol and it was great!
tiny but pre wo and got nice little results, talking like 30-40mg.
if you know you respond well to drol or winin why not just use them?
try low doses and check bloods while on.

 

[Sectør]

I'm surprised you're getting the lethargy on a relatively low dose of anavar, but it would make sense with age being a factor.

I don't really get lethargy on anavar personally, but superdrol absolutely destroys me. By week 2 on superdrol I'm lethargic af, pounding the caffeine, ready to throw in the towel on the SD

 

[A50#]

I'm surprised you're getting the lethargy on a relatively low dose of anavar, but it would make sense with age being a factor.

I don't really get lethargy on anavar personally, but superdrol absolutely destroys me. By week 2 on superdrol I'm lethargic af, pounding the caffeine, ready to throw in the towel on the SD

It happened many years back too when I was much younger. It's not something that just started. I always thought maybe my Anavar was fake until I stated obtaining prescription pharmacy grade product.

 

[A50#]

if it doesnt agree with you why push it?
if other drugs work better use them.
sometimes people just respond differently sometimes.
i played with low dose drol and it was great!
tiny but pre wo and got nice little results, talking like 30-40mg.
if you know you respond well to drol or winin why not just use them?
try low doses and check bloods while on.

Excellent reply! It really is that simple.I'm just always hearing how great Anavar is and it sparks my interest again. I'm going to leave it alone moving forward and not look back. It's obviously something that's not for me.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I have a friend that got cystic acne all over his body from 20 mg of var a day. He also said his eyesight got bad after and during its use. Said he felt like death on it. I told him it sounded less or superdrol to me

 

[madg]

I have a friend that got cystic acne all over his body from 20 mg of var a day. He also said his eyesight got bad after and during its use. Said he felt like death on it. I told him it sounded less or superdrol to me

Hahaha i was gome write SD !!!!

 

[madg]

Never push drugs that not make you feel good or give weird sides

It doesnt mater how good is for someone else !

Bodybuilding is individual sport !

My best advice is try each compound find the ones that agree with you and after mix them in cycles/blasts

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Excellent reply! It really is that simple.I'm just always hearing how great Anavar is and it sparks my interest again. I'm going to leave it alone moving forward and not look back. It's obviously something that's not for me.

Well here’s a testimonial AGAINST anavar-

Had a script and was getting it straight from the pharmacy in my lat 20’s early 30’s. This was before I realized that I hadn’t escalated my overall gear dose appropriately so overall gear usage was low. Used 40-80mg a day at different points in that same time period. Saw nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Gave it another go with a UG lab maybe a year ago at 100mg a day. Nothing

It has officially been taken off the roster

 

[danieltx]

Well here’s a testimonial AGAINST anavar-

Had a script and was getting it straight from the pharmacy in my lat 20’s early 30’s. This was before I realized that I hadn’t escalated my overall gear dose appropriately so overall gear usage was low. Used 40-80mg a day at different points in that same time period. Saw nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Gave it another go with a UG lab maybe a year ago at 100mg a day. Nothing

It has officially been taken off the roster

I've used injectable and oral anavar and never got anything from it. I much prefer dianabol, anadrol, and superdrol.

 

[lifter]

Well here’s a testimonial AGAINST anavar-

Had a script and was getting it straight from the pharmacy in my lat 20’s early 30’s. This was before I realized that I hadn’t escalated my overall gear dose appropriately so overall gear usage was low. Used 40-80mg a day at different points in that same time period. Saw nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Gave it another go with a UG lab maybe a year ago at 100mg a day. Nothing

It has officially been taken off the roster

Back when I first started PEDs, I remember people saying anavar was basically a small step up above creatine. I haven't used it much ever but I also noticed jack shit (positive or negative) when I did use it.

 

[BaetrixReloaded]

you don't respond well to anavar. don't overthink it man. orals are pretty useless except in a contest prep scenario imo anyway

just use more injectable and get those sweet sweet gains

 

[headtrainer]

I've always been told Anavar is one of the most user friendly, side effect free anabolics available. My experience has always been quite the opposite. Within a day or two I'm lethargic, fuzzy headed and just want to sleep all day. I oxandrolone from my TRT doctor. I paid a small fortune for it too and was incredibly disappointed when my experience was the same as in the past. Within a few days I'm feeling like total crap. The punch line to this is that I can run orals like Anadrol, Winstrol with relatively no problems. Can anyone explain what's going on with my reaction to Anavar/Oxandrolone?

I can’t give you an exact answer as to why anavar gives me lethargy as well. I believe it’s just a side effect of the drug itself. Anavar also lowers my sex drive. Why? I have no idea!

 

[LK3]

Excellent reply! It really is that simple.I'm just always hearing how great Anavar is and it sparks my interest again. I'm going to leave it alone moving forward and not look back. It's obviously something that's not for me.

me too bud, i forget with what but i have for sure run into that.
sometimes the simplest answer is the best!
really i was shocked by the tiny amt of drol just pre wo.
i used to eat tons of it when i was younger and would be the first to say why bother with just a little.
no real side effects either.

 

[LK3]

you don't respond well to anavar. don't overthink it man. orals are pretty useless except in a contest prep scenario imo anyway

just use more injectable and get those sweet sweet gains

have you used anardol before?
really i think its one of the best aas there is in terms of looks and strength, its like miracle grow. its like just below tren level good.
wini is also pretty good gear. gives a great look and good strength. more so then say eq.
they have some details but to say there are useless is silly.