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Anavar Dilemma

Literally countless. Are you serious? Where are you getting your information? J3U?

Basically every other forum and reddit believes that same shit and repeats it. You'd think Zeigler walked into York with the original dianabol from Ciba and none of them added muscle or used for more than aesthetcs over a few weeks. This is basically what kicked off the steroid molecule race, tailoring testosterone and base derivatives (like dht) to minimize/maximize various effects.

Anyway, this shit is repeated more than the truth or real science so this is the deal. I'll browse other boards and this and other stuff is totally common.
 
I didn't say anything like that and I certainly didn't claim pros were using orals in the offseason to grow. I have no clue why you brought that up.

There are studies in medical journals showing people like AIDs patients taking orals for months on end with no negative impact. Everyone's individual experience will vary but as a general rule orals can be used for months at a time in healthy individuals.
Around and Dorian Yates claim that d-bol was the best steroid in existence for gaining muscle size. I tried d-bol a few times and swelled up beyond what any dose of test could give me. But d-bol made my kidneys hurt and I couldn’t stay on it to get the maximum benefits.
 
As opposed to....permanent gains? How do I get the permanent gains?
so muscle memory is a real thing. muscles trained through consistent, repeated strength or resistance workouts experience cellular changes. And those changes make it easier for muscles to adapt, grow, and strengthen if you stop working out, and then you start working out again.

also no need to be pedantic man, you know exactly what I meant 👍
 

that thread was specifically referring to liver values. also we are talking about anavar specifically here. It's fair to say there's some nuance to the topic, depending on individual response and compound. wasn't trying to sound so absolute, my bad if that's how it came off.

going back to liver values, aside from them, anadrol can be nephratoxic (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6230458/) and also we know it has affects on BP

thanks for the links on the pros using orals. I know anadrol is used in the offseason, typically in the context of breaking plateaus, so I do wonder how long they run them for, if they're pulsing it, etc.
 
Interesting reaction. Virtually ever oral I have every tried has provided a big time boost in energy, Winstrol/Anavar/TBol and Dbol, even in minute amounts of 5 to 10mg.

All except for Anadrol, which made me a little sluggish and gave me no energy rush whatsoever, even at 100mg.

They say Anavar is process by the kidneys, unlike the other orals. Maybe thats got something to do with your symptoms.
 
Around and Dorian Yates claim that d-bol was the best steroid in existence for gaining muscle size. I tried d-bol a few times and swelled up beyond what any dose of test could give me. But d-bol made my kidneys hurt and I couldn’t stay on it to get the maximum benefits.
I knew Dbol was a staple in in Dorian's offseason, but I didnt know he actually said it was the best for gaining mass. I would have thought he attributed that to either the deca or test he was taking.
 
I knew Dbol was a staple in in Dorian's offseason, but I didnt know he actually said it was the best for gaining mass. I would have thought he attributed that to either the deca or test he was taking.
Dorian stated in an interview that d-bol was his favorite steroid.
 
After about a week of daily use anavar makes me feel sluggish and tired, but 20mg pre workout sublingual feels amazing. If I go 40mg I feel like shit. Same thing with dbol. If I’m having a shit day, 20mg anavar and 25mg dbol under the tongue an hour or two before I lift and I feel like my skin is stretching from the pumps and it’s almost a high feeling. The pre workout boost is where orals shine in my opinion and that’s the only reason I use them and keep it intermittent as needed. I’ve never once had a bad blood result on my kidney or liver markers on top of the other compounds mixed in there doing this.
 

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