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Thanks for sharing your diet. It looks tasty. You are looking thick in your back shot as well. Whats your current weight?
Yes indeed,,,many thanks. Stuff like this is so helpful.
Thanks for sharing your diet. It looks tasty. You are looking thick in your back shot as well. Whats your current weight?
I'm in the mid 230s now. I think I was 237 that particular morning.
I'm curious though, how did you arrive at this diet? What I mean is, was this trial and error or something more guided? And what did you find didn't work on your path to get to what you posted above?
Shelby , what is the "about" amount of cals in that diet , looks good and pretty easy to follow
Shelby, You look bigger at 237 then the shots you recently posted up of you at 245!! Arms look huge, back is thick as hell!!
Whats the reason for the weight-loss since you are still bulking?
I think the training days are roughly 3300 calories or so. The off days are maybe 2700ish?
Forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but how does a guy your size grow off just ~3300 calories/day?
Forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but how does a guy your size grow off just ~3300 calories/day?
Shelby,
In this case I see it as high protein, moderate fat, moderate carbs. Is that the route you'd take for carb sensitive people that need to bulk?
Will a clean, nutritious, and properly manipulated lower calorie diet be superior for muscle gains than one that's a little dirtier but has more calories for the same person?
Not a lot dirtier, but like cheats 1-2x week and not as cautious in nutrient timing but food is clean 90% of the time. As opposed to no cheating, 100% clean but a significant difference in calories(about 750kcal).
There are too many variables missing here - how many calories is the cleaner diet? What's the person's metabolism like? Extra calories above and beyond what are needed to build muscle will just add fat... bloat... higher blood pressure... labored breathing... a higher food bill... lethargy... uncomfort... more time needed to diet when it comes time to...
You need a caloric excess to build muscle, but you don't need gluttony.
You have to do what's comfortable for YOU though - if following a strict plan makes you dread bodybuilding, then you'll never stick to it.
Find what you enjoy and will be consistent with - that's what matters most.
Shelby would it be beneficial or not make a difference on the night shake to switch it to 25 g whey and 50 g casein. I would think more slow proteins would keep you more anabolic during your sleep?
In retrospect, the calories are probably a few hundred higher than I posted. I rarely go by calories (just macros) so forgot to include 'incidentals' like the fat in meats, the protein and carbs in nuts, etc. So maybe 3500-3600 on training days, and 3000ish on off days. Somewhere around there, anyways.
Also - remember that bodybuilding is an interplay of diet, training, and hormones. If any one of those is sub-optimal, so will be your results.