draven said:never --or not that long if you visit our boards year after year....and BTW ----test is natural
xcelbeyond said:So 10 years later, you're still not natural So what your saying, it's lifetime natural or NOTHING?!?
What if you took a substance that was not illegal/banned like 19Nor4Androstendiol years ago and now it's illegal?!?! What if they ban Creatine?!?!? Where is the line between natual and not - really?
xcelbeyond said:IMHO they can say 1, 3, 5 years or "whatever." If you've been clean for 1-1/2 years, anything you took "then" is not giving you an advantage "now." To me, that's the reality of it - - are the drugs giving you an advantage "now."
nandro said:i've been natural for over 3 years. i still have a good amount of residual from my competive days and that was taking over 2.5 years off from the gym. i have a really close friend in the same position as me and he is still big and looks better than most in the gym. we both took decent amounts of gh and i must say that i think our body composition will never be that what it was prior to the drugs. i've seen others who have just taken the steroids and look like crap. maybe it's the gh
No your not natural,cause one time in your life you did shift your Hormonal Balance of the body
I mean...when you start up... it's like you're a feline magnet!!!!!!!!! Notice that?
dragonfire101 said:I notice that all the time, even when not on, so that aspect doesn't effect me. LOL
I respect those of you that posted about people looked better later in life than if they "MAY not have" used drugs. But for every example you give me, I can give 2 where just the opposite happened - people shrunk down to nothing. I know of two college football players that I saw 2 years after they graduated/quit using and they looked like skinny basketball or tennis players - PATHETIC! This year I ran into Noah Fuller at the "state" contest, yes Nickki Fuller's ex (Phil probably knows him). Last time I saw this guy he was HUGE could barely fit through a door. I knew he was into a lot of powerlifting back in the 80's/early 90's. He was so small in comparison to what he used to be he actually looked MUCH shorterBigMatt said:He did tell me when he was 22-23 He Cycle alot... and get got up to more then 230 pound...
The thing is this guy used to be skinny and weight 150,but since he did use gear in his life he did Gain alot of muscle and Bone density etc,muscle maturity(Gear effects).
BigMatt said:Sorry im russian/French
I dont understand that part "never --or not that long if you visit our boards year after year"
Test is natural?What do you mean by that?
You do know that all AAS are hormonal derivated of the Main Testosterone Hormone?
Tren,deca,dbol,ana name it...all of them...
It's difficult for me to explain it well but Crowler did seem to understand what i meant...
AS Human,we are producing 70mg of Testosterone for 1 week.IN your Peak.
Pumping 1000mg of testosterone in your ass cheak is not natural.
whether it is Tren,deca,test,sus its all the same thing.
i hope i did explain myself well enough.
dragonfire101 said:So if someone takes a bunch of omega 3's or other products from the helath food store they will not be natural because this wil dramatically shift your hormone balance or its ok to shift your hormone balance with natural products.
What if someone who at 200, 10%bdf "natural" started taking gear gained 20 pounds 220 and ended up 5%bdf. Then stopped and lost all they gained and ended back up at 200 10%bdf there natural state, would they be natural then since they did not retain anything at all.