I see what you mean and it's all relative depending on goals. If someone says all they need to look good is a cc of test ew and a small dose of mast or winstrol, yeah sure I believe them, I'm sure they do look great at the beach.
Same deal when someone says they don't use tren, they don't like how it makes them feel and it isn't needed for their goals, no crime there. It's a valid point.
What irks me is when people outright lie about doses and act like you can compete nationally on 250mg test for your whole offseason and all you need for contest prep is 50mg winstrol daily for 6 weeks before.
Some very honest guys have told me they use 700mg tren, 1400mg mast and plenty of other drugs. Is it excessive? Yeah probably. Then some guys have told me they use 750mg test, 350mg tren and some winstrol going into a show. I believe it and that's probably about the minimum to be competitive at a national level.
It's when people claim ridiculously low doses then hide behind saying someone else's diet and training is fucked up if they need more drugs that gets me. Ffs if someone is competing they probably have a decent idea how to train and eat lol.