Tren-only Cycles -- dangerous???

[MountainMuscle]

Hey guys, it's nice to be back on! Here's a question about Tren...


I have some Tren acetate, 100 mg/ml, and was planning to do a short (6-8 weeks) cycle with just it at 100mg EOD followed by PCT with HCG, etc.

One of my friends showed me another board where I found posts warning to never do a Tren-only cycle. Warnings that it could be fatal, or cause near-fatal side effects. But no definite facts or references were given to back up the claims (and other posts said they had used Tren alone in the past fine with great results).

Is this hype? Or is it really that dangerous to use Tren-only for a cycle? If it is, can someone please tell me why? I couldn't find any clear answers in those posts, only that it'd cause ED (not permanent, just while taking it), headaches, high blood pressure.


Any help from the experts on this? I'm ready to start this cycle but I don't want to do something that truly is dangerous. Please help guys

Thanks!

 

[Dezzy]

Hey guys, it's nice to be back on! Here's a question about Tren...


I have some Tren acetate, 100 mg/ml, and was planning to do a short (6-8 weeks) cycle with just it at 100mg EOD followed by PCT with HCG, etc.

One of my friends showed me another board where I found posts warning to never do a Tren-only cycle. Warnings that it could be fatal, or cause near-fatal side effects. But no definite facts or references were given to back up the claims (and other posts said they had used Tren alone in the past fine with great results).

Is this hype? Or is it really that dangerous to use Tren-only for a cycle? If it is, can someone please tell me why? I couldn't find any clear answers in those posts, only that it'd cause ED (not permanent, just while taking it), headaches, high blood pressure.


Any help from the experts on this? I'm ready to start this cycle but I don't want to do something that truly is dangerous. Please help guys

Thanks!

Nearly fatal for your sex life! Tren is very suppressive to your hpta, and you might have trouble gettin it up

 

[mrmarcus]

TEST....................TEST RULES,
DEATH
TAXES
TEST

 

[Ironraider]

Nearly fatal for your sex life! Tren is very suppressive to your hpta, and you might have trouble gettin it up

True...and why it is good to take at least 250 mg of Test with the Tren to offset those limpy sides.

 

[Gunsmith]

dangerous to your health , no more than it is stacked with something

its fatal for your sexdrive tren A kills it for me within a week , 200mg/wk of some sort of test keeps me in the game

 

[MountainMuscle]

dangerous to your health , no more than it is stacked with something

its fatal for your sexdrive tren A kills it for me within a week , 200mg/wk of some sort of test keeps me in the game

OK guys, everyone talking about fatal for the sex drive and limpness etc, here are some questions to clarify the problem for me:

1. This sex drive problem is only while on the Tren, right?

2. It's not permanent and with proper PCT and recovery time you will regain your normal sex drive etc, right?

3. If you stack Tren with test, you can help balance out that side effect (to some degree, anyway), right?

4. And if you don't add test, you would still recover from the sex drive problem with Tren-only cycles as described in (2), right?


So to be clear on things other than sex drive, from the experts, there are no serious or fatal/near-fatal side effects or anything to worry about other than a serious sex drive problem if I choose to do Tren only? I really need to know this for sure because I don't want to mess up my body permanently from one 6- or 8-week cycle of one AAS.


I would love to stack it with test and forget about all of this, but the reason I can't add test is that I'm laid off and can only use what I have "on hand," which includes this Tren, Winny tabs, Winny depot, and Dianabol tabs. Would stacking with any of those help?????

Thanks!

 

[claymore]

Hey guys, it's nice to be back on! Here's a question about Tren...


I have some Tren acetate, 100 mg/ml, and was planning to do a short (6-8 weeks) cycle with just it at 100mg EOD followed by PCT with HCG, etc.

One of my friends showed me another board where I found posts warning to never do a Tren-only cycle. Warnings that it could be fatal, or cause near-fatal side effects. But no definite facts or references were given to back up the claims (and other posts said they had used Tren alone in the past fine with great results).

Is this hype? Or is it really that dangerous to use Tren-only for a cycle? If it is, can someone please tell me why? I couldn't find any clear answers in those posts, only that it'd cause ED (not permanent, just while taking it), headaches, high blood pressure.


Any help from the experts on this? I'm ready to start this cycle but I don't want to do something that truly is dangerous. Please help guys

Thanks!

Whichever board you fond these posts...there wrong

 

[gridlock]

TEST....................TEST RULES,
DEATH
TAXES
TEST

eh?

 

[Lou]

Yeah, tren-only cycles will kill you. Remember steroids kill and they are the culprit of all evils in the world.

 

[Ashop]

Hey guys, it's nice to be back on! Here's a question about Tren...


I have some Tren acetate, 100 mg/ml, and was planning to do a short (6-8 weeks) cycle with just it at 100mg EOD followed by PCT with HCG, etc.

One of my friends showed me another board where I found posts warning to never do a Tren-only cycle. Warnings that it could be fatal, or cause near-fatal side effects. But no definite facts or references were given to back up the claims (and other posts said they had used Tren alone in the past fine with great results).

Is this hype? Or is it really that dangerous to use Tren-only for a cycle? If it is, can someone please tell me why? I couldn't find any clear answers in those posts, only that it'd cause ED (not permanent, just while taking it), headaches, high blood pressure.


Any help from the experts on this? I'm ready to start this cycle but I don't want to do something that truly is dangerous. Please help guys

Thanks!

I've ran TREN Only cycles in the past and within a few weeks felt horrible,,lethargy,, and ultimately ceased use. This drug will shut you down hard,,and fast. I will only run TREN if there is a TEST as my base. You will gain better,,feel better,,and look MUCH better in the end. Plus you will keep your libido and avoid many of the sides you here people complain about.

 

[mersanary]

I would love to stack it with test and forget about all of this, but the reason I can't add test is that I'm laid off and can only use what I have "on hand," which includes this Tren, Winny tabs, Winny depot, and Dianabol tabs. Would stacking with any of those help?????

Thanks!

A vial of Test is cheap. If you can't afford to run a maintenance dose of it in your cycle then you are probably better off waiting to start your cycle anyway.

Would you miss a meal here and there or skimp out on food quality/quantity to save money?

Wait till you are rdy to have a proper cycle complete with all the food you can handle and as little stress as possible

 

[Ironraider]

I've ran TREN Only cycles in the past and within a few weeks felt horrible,,lethargy,, and ultimately ceased use. This drug will shut you down hard,,and fast. I will only run TREN if there is a TEST as my base. You will gain better,,feel better,,and look MUCH better in the end. Plus you will keep your libido and avoid many of the sides you here people complain about.

Bing-bango-boom...right on.

 

[Pawwn]

I run tren alone for longs periods and my sex drive is so so. It doesn't prevent erections, but it takes me more to get it up and the penor is not as hard sometimes.

The main problem with running tren alone for bulking is it takes too long to build muscle. I mean, you will get stronger and bigger, but you'll be 90 years old before you ever reach your size goals. My thinking is the lack of estrogen to go with the androgen results in less than explosive muscle growth. I finally figured this out after awhile of little muscle growth.

The best way to use it alone, imo, is to preserve size while dieting. Works awesome for this! So now I will do something like test+deca for bulking and then tren alone with low carbs to maintain the mass.

 

[Thor]

AGREED

I run tren alone for longs periods and my sex drive is so so. It doesn't prevent erections, but it takes me more to get it up and the penor is not as hard sometimes.

The main problem with running tren alone for bulking is it takes too long to build muscle. I mean, you will get stronger and bigger, but you'll be 90 years old before you ever reach your size goals. My thinking is the lack of estrogen to go with the androgen results in less than explosive muscle growth. I finally figured this out after awhile of little muscle growth.

The best way to use it alone, imo, is to preserve size while dieting. Works awesome for this! So now I will do something like test+deca for bulking and then tren alone with low carbs to maintain the mass.

also it takes longer than usual to get back to normal when using tren.

 

[Blade_HST]

That's not it. When using e.g. Testosterone it inhibits the 11-beta hydroxylase enzyme, which increases 11-deoxycortisol - a potent mineralocorticoid (like aldosterone). So you get increased water weight. Add the aromatization into estrogen and you get bloating and a puffier look.

You don't get this with Tren. In addition it's a potent anti-glucocorticoid so you will be even more dry from the blockage of cortisol.

Net muscle gains of 1lbs/week are about the max (give or take ofc) and to get 2lbs/month would still be spectacular results.

Water rention does not equal muscle obviously, but it serves an instant gratification when you look all swole and hyooge from it.

 

[eroc613]

A vial of Test is cheap. If you can't afford to run a maintenance dose of it in your cycle then you are probably better off waiting to start your cycle anyway.

Would you miss a meal here and there or skimp out on food quality/quantity to save money?

Wait till you are rdy to have a proper cycle complete with all the food you can handle and as little stress as possible

Vote #1 for best post in this thread..

 

[MountainMuscle]

Vote #1 for best post in this thread..

OK guys, thanks for the expert advice. So that one user who said the other boards were wrong, was wrong him/herself?


I know that test isn't that expensive by itself, but I don't work-out at a gym and I don't deal with a local dealer. I actually doubt anyone in my neck of the woods even uses, let alone sells, roids, and the closest gym anyway is across the state border (I'm in the Appalachians...).

So, I have to order my gear from overseas. Every reputable online shop I've checked out require a minimum order of at least $100. That's the main thing keeping me from ordering test.

But, based on all of your input, I think I am going to hold onto the Tren until I get test somehow.

I planned to run the Tren at 100mg EOD for either a 6-week or 8-week cycle. Does anyone have recommendations on how to stack it with test in a cycle? Dose changes? I'm 5'6", weigh about 170 pounds, and pretty low bodyfat.

Thanks everyone!

-MM