Lessons I learned trying to get huge as a hardgainer

[brocksamson]

Wtf should I? I’ve got nothing to prove to you

You started a thread entitled "Lessons I learned trying to get huge"
Yet you have not proven to anyone that you have any appreciable muscle to show
Its like starting a thread on a professional business website about lessons you learned to make a million dollars
yet you have $1000 in the bank

 

[heavyhitter]

LOL
These before and after are trash
Set your phone down
Reverse the camera
take a video
and do normal poses

Wtf should I? I’ve got nothing to prove to you. I couldn’t give a shit if you believe me, you’re welcome to go troll someone else’s post.

Oh never mind….looks like you’re already trolling other posts.

 

[heavyhitter]

You started a thread entitled "Lessons I learned trying to get huge"
Yet you have not proven to anyone that you have any appreciable muscle to show
Its like starting a thread on a professional business website about lessons you learned to make a million dollars
yet you have $1000 in the bank

I don’t have shit to prove to anybody. I’ve been here for 17 years. You don’t believe me? I don’t give a shit…you’re welcome to fuck right off

 

[brocksamson]

I don’t have shit to prove to anybody. I’ve been here for 17 years. You don’t believe me? I don’t give a shit…you’re welcome to fuck right off

hahaha ok man

 

[jplahm]

Heavy ,glad to see you do this....I just read this all ..Thank you my brotha!

 

[heavyhitter]

Tell you what…..I’ll feed the trolls. Here’s a pic at my all time heaviest while powerlifting at 274 lbs. face and everything. Obviously it’s a shit photo since this is from 2012 and was on a Cheap ass nokia phone. Pre tattoos. Didn’t start getting them until I got divorced at 31. Arms were measuring a hair over 20 here

 

[heavyhitter]

Heavy ,glad to see you do this....I just read this all ..Thank you my brotha!

Any time man. Any questions feel free to ask, or if you’re have any input or anything you’ve found that works please add it. I’m never above trying something someone else likes

 

[showstopper83]

I wrote this for another board and most of it is pretty simple rudimentary stuff we all know, but ive had lots of pm’s lately from new members asking about how I eat or how I got here so I figured I’d post it here too. Feel free to ignore lol





10. Forgot a huge one. Digestive enzymes. These will help you digest more food. You can only process what your can digest. You want a product with protease(preferably more than one kind) amylase, and lipase at the very minimum. Other great things to be in there are papain, lactase, bromelain, ox bile. One of these before larger meal really can help make a difference.

11. Gut health is everything. I have ibs and eating is difficult for me. 10 grams of glutamine first thing in the morning and before bed on an empty stomach goes a long way towards keeping your intestinal tract healthy and avoiding leaky gut syndrome which trust me….will wreak havoc on your body. As your push bodyweight up you’ll also have to push food and finding ways to help your gut is crucial to consume these amounts of food. Eat fermented foods. Saurkraut and kimchi are two of my favorites and I eat so much I make them myself by the gallon. You can also take a probiotic, but getting it from food will always be better

Sage advice here.

"Eat 5000 clean calories a day" is not realistic, and if you cant do it... just get the fuckin cals in no matter what, assuming protein is where it needs to be.

My best muscle and strength gains were made when i was shoveling cake and crackers/cheese and whatever down the hatch.

You worry about getting that shit off later.

 

[heavyhitter]

Sage advice here.

"Eat 5000 clean calories a day" is not realistic, and if you cant do it... just get the fuckin cals in no matter what, assuming protein is where it needs to be.

My best muscle and strength gains were made when i was shoveling cake and crackers/cheese and whatever down the hatch.

You worry about getting that shit off later.

Yep man, that’s really what it comes down to

 

[luki7788]

I ate 7500 pure kcal a day without any problem and for several weeks, not a few days, so I don't know what the problem is

 

[b-boy]

You have to constantly tell your body to shut the fuck up if you want to build it up.

WRONG!!

 

[b-boy]

I ate 7500 pure kcal a day without any problem and for several weeks, not a few days, so I don't know what the problem is

It's because your anabolic as fuck! Your training, your gear, your sleep, your digestion are all optimal, thus you are anabolic, thus you are hungry!
One of the many things Phil Hernon taught me...R.I.P.

This is what a lot of the "force feed yourself" people don't comprehend.

 

[luki7788]

It's because your anabolic as fuck! Your training, your gear, your sleep, your digestion are all optimal, thus you are anabolic, thus you are hungry!
One of the many things Phil Hernon taught me...R.I.P.

This is what a lot of the "force feed yourself" people don't comprehend.

nothing more nothing less, everything in the subject - the organisms of 90% of those guys who train do not work even 60% optimally because their daily routine simply does not exist, every day looks different and the body will not work optically, the organism likes repeatability, that's why nature has created something such as your circadian rhythm

 

[b-boy]

Tell you what…..I’ll feed the trolls. Here’s a pic at my all time heaviest while powerlifting at 274 lbs. face and everything. Obviously it’s a shit photo since this is from 2012 and was on a Cheap ass nokia phone. Pre tattoos. Didn’t start getting them until I got divorced at 31. Arms were measuring a hair over 20 here

LOL, you two are welcome to internet fight all you want, but honestly this doesn't look like a troll, you might not like what he says but troll? maybe asshole..LOL but not troll

 

[luki7788]

Tell you what…..I’ll feed the trolls. Here’s a pic at my all time heaviest while powerlifting at 274 lbs. face and everything. Obviously it’s a shit photo since this is from 2012 and was on a Cheap ass nokia phone. Pre tattoos. Didn’t start getting them until I got divorced at 31. Arms were measuring a hair over 20 here

Buddy, don't take it badly because I don't want to offend you in any way, but in this photo you are just fat. And absolutely someone who looks like this is not a hard gainer, but tells himself to do so. Because if you are a hard gainer, you eat 8k kcal and you have 6% bf ...
I will show you an example of my client and his exact diet

TRAINING DAYS 5 X WEEK:
1.p-45g c-160g f-20g + 10iu humalog
2.p-45g c-140g f-10g
3.p-45g c-140g f-10g
4.p-45g c-160g f-5g Pre wo.meal + 10iu humalog

intra drink
2g taurin
7-8g of creatine
15g eaa
10g glutamines
80g of dextrose


5.p-50g c-240g f-0g PWO meal + 15iu humalog
6.p-45g c-180g f-15g

TOTAL p-275g c-1100g f-60g

OFF DAY 2X WEEK
1.p-45g c-140g f-20g
2.p-45g c-80g f-15g
3.p-45g c-80g f-15g
4.p-45g c-80g f-15g
5.p-45g c-80g f-15g
6.p-45g c-140g f-35g

TOTAL p-270g c-600g f-115g


Cardio: 0


He is 14 weeks after the competition and he has only gained 8-9 lbs in that time - this is a real hardgainer.

Oh, remember that this is a diet based on macronutrients, i.e. we do not include rice protein, etc., or chicken fats, etc., so in fact there are more calories than on paper

 

[Dugbet]

what do you mean?
I just kind of said I feel like when I bulk it goes all to my belly.
What are you asking?

We have evolved from being hard gainers to being fat gainers, lol

 

[b-boy]

Buddy, don't take it badly because I don't want to offend you in any way, but in this photo you are just fat. And absolutely someone who looks like this is not a hard gainer, but tells himself to do so. Because if you are a hard gainer, you eat 8k kcal and you have 6% bf ...
I will show you an example of my client and his exact diet

TRAINING DAYS 5 X WEEK:
1.p-45g c-160g f-20g + 10iu humalog
2.p-45g c-140g f-10g
3.p-45g c-140g f-10g
4.p-45g c-160g f-5g Pre wo.meal + 10iu humalog

intra drink
2g taurin
7-8g of creatine
15g eaa
10g glutamines
80g of dextrose


5.p-50g c-240g f-0g PWO meal + 15iu humalog
6.p-45g c-180g f-15g

TOTAL p-275g c-1100g f-60g

OFF DAY 2X WEEK
1.p-45g c-140g f-20g
2.p-45g c-80g f-15g
3.p-45g c-80g f-15g
4.p-45g c-80g f-15g
5.p-45g c-80g f-15g
6.p-45g c-140g f-35g

TOTAL p-270g c-600g f-115g


Cardio: 0


He is 14 weeks after the competition and he has only gained 8-9 lbs in that time - this is a real hardgainer.

Oh, remember that this is a diet based on macronutrients, i.e. we do not include rice protein, etc., or chicken fats, etc., so in fact there are more calories than on paper

TRUTH ^^^^^

 

[brocksamson]

LOL, you two are welcome to internet fight all you want, but honestly this doesn't look like a troll, you might not like what he says but troll? maybe asshole..LOL but not trollView attachment 142235

Not an TROLL
Definitely an ASSHOLE

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

WRONG!!

Psshhht don’t lie bro back in the day you ran tons of steroids. Grams per week. You think your body liked you doing that? I’m not trying to shame you at all, you’re a member I most try to copy lol...but we trash our bodies for our goals.

 

[b-boy]

Psshhht don’t lie bro back in the day you ran tons of steroids. Grams per week. You think your body liked you doing that? I’m not trying to shame you at all, you’re a member I most try to copy lol...but we trash our bodies for our goals.

Tons of steroids... ha ha ha yeah sure
There is a thread somewhere of highest dosage you've ran, I wouldn't call my Tons, hell even the worse cycles I seen in that thread I wouldn't call TONS, but hey whatever helps you sleep better at night.