BCAAs with preWO insulin, protein?

[vanya]

Ok so if one takes insulin preworkout along with an intra workout shake of BCAAs,creatine,beta alanine, and dextrose, do you count the BCAAs towards daily protein intake? Like in my shake i put 20 grams of BCAAs in it, would i count that towards 20 extra grams of protein for the day?

 

[nickman1978]

i wouldn't count it but thats just me.....

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Um

BCAA is not a protein..........use trueprotein LBA prior to workout if you want to see a difference.

 

[tenny]

no i would not count it
its an imcomplete protein

 

[vanya]

Ok thanks fellas

 

[dalvare1]

in my opinion bcaas elicit a greater response in protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, and mTor signalling to the point that which they are superior to complete proteins (provided adequate complete protein intake is achieved in conjuction to bcaa supplementation) in improving workout performance/recovery. I would heavily reccommend BCAA supplementation before/during/after training. And I would say that you should take BCAA's into consideration when deciding your macro totals. Just because its not a complete protein doesnt in my opinion mean it shouldnt count. You eat protein for the amino acids therein, not the other way around!

 

[musicmann89]

go with LBA's

 

[Thor]

I've heard this before

in my opinion bcaas elicit a greater response in protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, and mTor signalling to the point that which they are superior to complete proteins (provided adequate complete protein intake is achieved in conjuction to bcaa supplementation) in improving workout performance/recovery. I would heavily reccommend BCAA supplementation before/during/after training. And I would say that you should take BCAA's into consideration when deciding your macro totals. Just because its not a complete protein doesnt in my opinion mean it shouldnt count. You eat protein for the amino acids therein, not the other way around!

and I believe it because it makes sense, however I use both Bcaas and Lbas, why not cover all bases.

 

[nsb1215]

this i think is a good discussion....would like to hear some of the trop' guys opinions....i know dr. serrano did a study using eaas and bcaas calling it amino loading...u should research it...informative...but to answer the question, i would...

 

[SantiagoMuscle]

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[PHIL HERNON]

Also

Never take BCAA with other proteins.........use them by itself for whatever benefit you feel you get.

 

[Thor]

Thanks Phil...

Never take BCAA with other proteins.........use them by itself for whatever benefit you feel you get.

but does that go for lba's as well?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

No

but does that go for lba's as well?

Of course not.......LBA are a complete protein.

 

[SantiagoMuscle]

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[pimpman]

Of course not.......LBA are a complete protein.

phill i use 1 scoop of serious mass protein shake with bcaa,glutamin,waxy maize,and 1 scoop of powder gator raid and sip it through my work out.is this not good combo?

 

[T TOTAL]

phill i use 1 scoop of serious mass protein shake with bcaa,glutamin,waxy maize,and 1 scoop of powder gator raid and sip it through my work out.is this not good combo?

This is more or less my PWO shake at present. I have whey isolate instead of the serious mass, and i also add 45-60ml of LBA's to. Quite often have the same before i train to...

 

[DOHCrazy]

BCAA is not a protein..........use trueprotein LBA prior to workout if you want to see a difference.

Phil,

Could you explain, or link me to an explanation, of why LBA would show a difference?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Phil,

Could you explain, or link me to an explanation, of why LBA would show a difference?

As opposed to an incomplete protein? Really? Do you have any experience with supplements such as protein? Are you new to lifting? Just curious........do you need to see a study on how protein is the king of recovery? I mean, complete protein............not simply a few amino acids........its basic nutrition 101......maybe google protein or google amino acids?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Try this

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[PsyT]

As opposed to an incomplete protein? Really? Do you have any experience with supplements such as protein? Are you new to lifting? Just curious........do you need to see a study on how protein is the king of recovery? I mean, complete protein............not simply a few amino acids........its basic nutrition 101......maybe google protein or google amino acids?

oh-man-you-totally-could-have-been-more-condescending!!!