- Joined
- Sep 12, 2004
- Messages
- 9,525
I feel best at 50-60in my opinion, it is 40-60
optimally, some like it above even 100
I feel best at 50-60in my opinion, it is 40-60
optimally, some like it above even 100
Does it matter how much test you take or is it the same that 50-60 feels best at 400mg as 1,000mg?I feel best at 50-60
Has anyone here tried the dbol + primo cycle from Arnold's era?
Some of those guys never did testosterone.
I'm trying to understand the science behind how it worked so great for them, they didn't take AIs, tamox etc. Didn't have bloated faces, no gynos, etc
I don't think it was the slin and gh as much as the site enhancement that has created the unpleasing look present in most bodybuilders today.Insulin and GH changed everything that’s all it is, there isn’t some long lost secret as to why guys looked more aesthetically pleasing back then and why they are giant deformed mounds of muscle now.
Very true you don't know what you don't know. We only saw what they wanted to show us.There is big confirmation bias here as well
Nobody photographed the fat pimple looking beanbags, or the steroid hypo responders. The best physiques, got the best attention. And the people who were prone to being in that group were also the ones most interested in the sport given how much infancy it was in back then
In that era you saw the cream of the crops in pictures; Joe Weider didn't really care about representing the average man on gear, he was building a herculean image of his brand and athletes
You give Arnold the same drugs and methodologies of today, and I guarantee it would be a positively jaw dropping result. He wouldn't suddenly turn into some ugly monster because he used more testosterone
I know broArnold used a lot of dbol which also Aromatasizes to estrogen.
There’s a lot of truth to this statement!I don't think it was the slin and gh as much as the site enhancement that has created the unpleasing look present in most bodybuilders today.