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How Porn can Ruin Your Sex Life and Your Marriage

After going through the thread, I don't have much add. You either accept the notion that anything that stimulates the pleasure and reward centers of the brain associated with satisfaction can be addictive... or you don't accept it.

For those of us that accept it, it's not a stretch to believe that just like any other stimuli, whether it be cocaine, heroin, food, sex, work, addictions generally require a continually higher degree of stimuli; more cocaine, more alcohol, more food, more sex, whatever. Regarding pornography, this could conceivably manifest itself in a number of ways. It could be simply more pornography or it could be requiring porn of a more obscene and graphic nature. In monogamous relationships, I think it can only do harm and never be beneficial. Harmful in that the viewer is "engaging" with the film in the sense that the viewer is locked in with the actors in such a way that ultimately, there is significant reward and satisfaction (an orgasm). In my OPINION, this is infidelity. Now, that's my opinion, which obviously can not be scientifically proven. From my point of view, if you've masturbated yourself to orgasm along with an actor/actress in full view and still think you're faithful to your wife, you're kidding yourself. Now, it's nothing to hate yourself for because it's perfectly natural. But just because it's natural, doesn't mean it's beneficial to you or your marriage. Eating a candy bar may be natural but it certainly isn't beneficial.

Each and every one of you must decide FOR YOURSELVES what you think is right and what is wrong. Trust your instincts. I truly believe, with healthy persons, you'll find more often than not that if you really, REALLY look at what you're doing (your behavior), you'll recognize good behaviors from bad behaviors. I would go so far as to say that the fate of the world depends on all of us doing just that. I say that to stress the importance of it.

To the OP, I can only say that I would recommend you avoid artificial sexual stimulation for a time. Take a break from all of it. As just a suggestion, I may even also say that you might consider abstaining from all sexual activity for a short time. As evolved creatures we MUST begin to find some discipline in our behavior. There is nothing wrong with fasting from sex for an amount of time in order to gain some mastery over your body's desires. Speak to and talk to your wife gently and lovingly about this topic. Explain what you are trying to do. She may even join with you when she understands the logic of it.

There is very little research in these areas and almost all of what you will read is opinion. What I just wrote is opinion.

Not to mention, what is more desirable than your nude wife lying next to you that you CAN'T touch?



To the other person that asked about my residency here... in a former life, yes. Today, I want you all to just think of me as me. Titles mean nothing.

Much appreciated OTH!!

Pretty much where I am today. Will heed your advice moving forward!

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If anyone has any experience with any of them I would appreciate your feedback. I did receive a PM from a member regarding the first and his help is greatly appreciated!
 
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With anything in life , i think its about be able to seperate fantasy from reality. Porn opens up a world that can satiate ones sexual fantasies, if that cant be justified in real life. When the video ends be able to come back to reality, if you cant do this then it can be a real problem.
 
With anything in life , i think its about be able to seperate fantasy from reality. Porn opens up a world that can satiate ones sexual fantasies, if that cant be justified in real life. When the video ends be able to come back to reality, if you cant do this then it can be a real problem.

and welcome to my reality...which I am trying to change ;)
 
The so called experts probably don't have children either. :rolleyes:

Just as many experts will say its damaging to a you child to wake up alone in a dark room. We as humans kept out children close for for thosands of years, then we started listening to experts.
 
Just as many experts will say its damaging to a you child to wake up alone in a dark room. We as humans kept out children close for for thosands of years, then we started listening to experts.
Yes, I also wanted to address this. I totally agree with Cerberus777 here. For hundreds of thousands of years we have huddled close together around fires, keeping our children close to us throughout the night for their safety. Separating child from parent artificially with locked doors and cribs with bars is NOT NATURAL. A child will want to sleep by themselves when they are ready to sleep by themselves. Why in the name of G-d would you deprive your child of such security and intimacy?

What are you trying to do? Teach your child to learn to be isolated?

RIDICULOUS!!!

FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!! And why it was brought up in this porn thread, is even more creepy.
 
Yes, I also wanted to address this. I totally agree with Cerberus777 here. For hundreds of thousands of years we have huddled close together around fires, keeping our children close to us throughout the night for their safety. Separating child from parent artificially with locked doors and cribs with bars is NOT NATURAL. A child will want to sleep by themselves when they are ready to sleep by themselves. Why in the name of G-d would you deprive your child of such security and intimacy?

What are you trying to do? Teach your child to learn to be isolated?

RIDICULOUS!!!

FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!! And why it was brought up in this porn thread, is even more creepy.

Thanks again!!

My son slept with us until he was 3, he told us he was ready to sleep in his big boy bed and he has been. Now sometimes he wants me to lay down with him and we talk about his day and he falls asleep and is there the entire night.

My daughter slept in her bed and woke up one night having a nightmare and has wanted to sleep with us since, not once has she woken up screaming crying because of her feeling of safety. I wouldn't trade it for the world because one day soon she's not going to want anything to do with me or my wife lol!!
 
Thanks again!!

My son slept with us until he was 3, he told us he was ready to sleep in his big boy bed and he has been. Now sometimes he wants me to lay down with him and we talk about his day and he falls asleep and is there the entire night.

My daughter slept in her bed and woke up one night having a nightmare and has wanted to sleep with us since, not once has she woken up screaming crying because of her feeling of safety. I wouldn't trade it for the world because one day soon she's not going to want anything to do with me or my wife lol!!
Do not miss or turn away a single moment of healthy love and affection with your children or your parents EVER. Enjoy every bit of that intimacy while you have time. Because the clock is ticking. For all of us.

Love them all you can every moment you can and their life will be filled with the same.
 
Well said OTH...well said :)
 
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We sure have built quite a cage for ourselves here haven't we now? Wow. I will try to simplify the problem. Our cities and streets and parks are a hamster cage that we have built for ourselves.

When you decide to have a hamster as a pet, you provide it with food, things to chew on, a wheel to exercise on, water... an artificial environment. We live in an artificial environment as well. Buildings, and air conditioning, cars, roads, supermarkets.

But here's the problem. We made our environment so complex that now instead of adjusting the environment to ourselves, we must adjust ourselves to the artificial environment we've created. This often referred to as "fitting in". Fitting in to what? How ridiculous is that? You wouldn't expect a hamster to adjust to the cage you built! You would adjust the cage to the hamster.

Since our artificial terrarium has only been around for a couple hundred years, it might not always fit an animal that has been on the planet for 100's of thousands of years. No animal species can adapt that fast. That's why I came up with the "Cro-Magnon Diet". It's too late now, because someone beat me to it with the Paleo diet but that's okay. The point is that people have begun to start growing their own food and living a more basic life. Life is considered much more difficult in under-developed countries yes? However, mental illness in those countries is almost non-existent. But life doesn't have to be so hard for us.

My point? My point is go hunt, go fish. grow something and nurture it. Huddle close with your family around a campfire. Leave your phone at home. You'll have a feeling of peace that you can't get from a promotion, a fancy house, or a new car.

Look up at the stars. Consider that the Milky Way Galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter and still, there are more galaxies in the universe than grains of sand on Earth.

And stay fit lads. Your family needs your strength.
 
Kids in the bed is a BAD idea! Both of my kids went straight to a bassinet next to the bed for 3 months, then off to the other room in a crib. Kid in the bed is not your real problem, BUT I am not comfortable sleeping naked (as I do) with my kids in the bed and I am not getting hot for some action with a kid between us either.

For the guy who thinks there might be even one "baby expert" that doesn`t have a kid of their own... well that`s just stupid.
 
Kids in the bed is a BAD idea! Both of my kids went straight to a bassinet next to the bed for 3 months, then off to the other room in a crib. Kid in the bed is not your real problem, BUT I am not comfortable sleeping naked (as I do) with my kids in the bed and I am not getting hot for some action with a kid between us either.

For the guy who thinks there might be even one "baby expert" that doesn`t have a kid of their own... well that`s just stupid.
And why would you ever entangle your sexuality with your children? Native Americans had many children with their existing children in the same tent. What? You think they had an extra bedroom?

Many people sleep naked. So what? Only in our warped western culture is nudity taboo or "sexual" in nature. You continue to do what you feel comfortable with and let everyone else make that decision for themselves.

Honestly, I don't feel any better when my family and I are three across the bed. I sleep soundly knowing my girls are close to me and safe. I don't even need an electronic listening device to "hear" when my girls are in distress. After all, for thousands of years, couples have relied on baby monitors to ensure the survival of their children.

Then again, I'm not over sexualized like most people in American culture. I don't equate nudity with sexual arousal. It's just people. I protect my family at all costs - clothing or not.
 
And why would you ever entangle your sexuality with your children? Native Americans had many children with their existing children in the same tent. What? You think they had an extra bedroom?

Many people sleep naked. So what? Only in our warped western culture is nudity taboo or "sexual" in nature. You continue to do what you feel comfortable with and let everyone else make that decision for themselves.

Honestly, I don't feel any better when my family and I are three across the bed. I sleep soundly knowing my girls are close to me and safe. I don't even need an electronic listening device to "hear" when my girls are in distress. After all, for thousands of years, couples have relied on baby monitors to ensure the survival of their children.

Then again, I'm not over sexualized like most people in American culture. I don't equate nudity with sexual arousal. It's just people. I protect my family at all costs - clothing or not.

maybe you read me the wrong way. When I`m in bed naked with my naked wife, THAT makes things sexual, possibly at anytime. With kids that is never gonna happen, its takes away spontaneous moments, passion of doing things in the moment... that is bad for a relationship, that`s when you fall into "friendship".

I was never worried about my kids sleeping in another room. Read the VAERS report and see how many kids get "SIDS" within short proximity of vaccines, some times same day. It is good for a childs development in so many ways to have their own room....but that is another topic I guess.

I don`t get the weird reference to natives, different culture, time period, but I doubt they slept with the baby between the parents... "same tent" yes
 
maybe you read me the wrong way. When I`m in bed naked with my naked wife, THAT makes things sexual, possibly at anytime. With kids that is never gonna happen, its takes away spontaneous moments, passion of doing things in the moment... that is bad for a relationship, that`s when you fall into "friendship".

I was never worried about my kids sleeping in another room. Read the VAERS report and see how many kids get "SIDS" within short proximity of vaccines, some times same day. It is good for a childs development in so many ways to have their own room....but that is another topic I guess.

I don`t get the weird reference to natives, different culture, time period, but I doubt they slept with the baby between the parents... "same tent" yes

That must only include the bedroom to you. I had sex many different places, including out doors. But that is what I consider spontaneous and passion of doing things at the moment. But carry on that a kid sleeping in your bed is ruining your sex life. :D
 
Holding solid relationship, intimacy, passion, to me...more so to her, is more than sex, "pounding it". Yes spooning, cuddling, most times happens in the bed. What % of the time does that happen outside for you?

I`m not bout to take relationship advice from a guy that basically imported a bride that looks like your daughter (and could be, gross.. yea that`s love) because she wanted to get out of her homeland and (bless her) have a better live and opportunity for her daughter.

Well, if it isn't about sex I can cuddle my wife, hug her, kiss her anywhere, why the bedroom for you? Don't be a hater because I have a good looking wife who loves me. :) I don't think I put your family down at all. Grow up and use a little more tact next time.
 
Well, if it isn't about sex I can cuddle my wife, hug her, kiss her anywhere, why the bedroom for you? Don't be a hater because I have a good looking wife who loves me. :) I don't think I put your family down at all. Grow up and use a little more tact next time.

Hater.. Not at all, realist yes. Ask her 2 years ago what`s more attractive any 50 y/o American or the hottest 25 y/o Romanian her age, the answer is easy. Don`t come at me, you`ll get truth you didn`t want.

Can you cuddle and have intimacy "anywhere" with your spouse with the same regularity of GOING TO BED AND WAKING UP EVERYDAY WITH YOUR SPOUSE NAKED EVERYDAY?!@ A kiss in the kitchen is much different. History did not have kids between parents "in a tent". Kids were always in a crib, bassinet, separate. If anything it is a western culture, tradition to bring kids into the bed to over coddle them.

My point was a majority of spooning time, cuddling, intimacy occurs before bed/sleep and in the morning, which sometimes leads to sex... which will NOT HAPPEN with a child in the bed. If a man (or woman) is not fulfilled sexually, that will burst at the seams someplace, porn, cheating, etc. I also understand the easy, enjoyable "nobody home pants all the way off j/o" vs kids in the other room, knocking on the door, or flat out not happening cause a kid is in bed.
 
Hater.. Not at all, realist yes. Ask her 2 years ago what`s more attractive any 50 y/o American or the hottest 25 y/o Romanian her age, the answer is easy. Don`t come at me, you`ll get truth you didn`t want.

Well, I don't want answers about my wife from some random guy off the internet, that is for sure. Since you don't know me or my wife, you are talking out your ass. Seems like you are good at that. Like I said, use tact and don't bring people's families into things. You seem bitter because I have a good looking wife, I am sorry about that, but please get over it and move on.
 
I don't want to argue about it. Like I said originally sometimes you either agree and others you simply don't.

Cuddling, spooning, caressing is not intercourse. "Exposing" your children to intimacy in my opinion is completely harmless. This is silly. We are so over-sexualized in this country and it's really sad because now it has even made being loving and intimate within the family somehow awkward.

There is plenty of time to have intercourse.

I don't understand why you don't understand my references to early tribes of people and Native Americans. Maybe you're an idiot. I don't know. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Go watch Dances With Wolves. You have me stumped there.

When they tell you that it is inappropriate to be loving and intimate with your children, that's when you tell them it will seem more appropriate when their kids are working for your kids.
 
I agree about intimacy with kids. But I brought our 2.5 yo in bed at 4am when she was crying and she just flails around while shes sleeping. Plus watching her all day can be tough plus having her in bed every night would drive me INSANE.

I don't know about you but I don't have a tribe to watch my kids everyday, you can't extrapolate one aspect of indians lives when the total circumstances we live under are totally different. Have you been the main caregiver of multiple very small children.? Sure its not hard but it can definately gets tedious. I wish I had a tribe to help but all mine have jobs and busy lives.


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I agree about intimacy with kids. But I brought our 2.5 yo in bed at 4am when she was crying and she just flails around while shes sleeping. Plus watching her all day can be tough plus having her in bed every night would drive me INSANE.

I don't know about you but I don't have a tribe to watch my kids everyday, you can't extrapolate one aspect of indians lives when the total circumstances we live under are totally different. Have you been the main caregiver of multiple very small children.? Sure its not hard but it can definately gets tedious. I wish I had a tribe to help but all mine have jobs and busy lives.


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That's fine. As I said, you do things your way, and I'll do things my way. I have been a single parent to two children and I have a third on the way. Yes, it's "tedious". LOL

I only brought up Native Americans and early tribes to demonstrate that that's how we have been for thousands of years - not living in ice cube trays.

You're all the tribe they need.
 
I defintely agree people were meant to live in kind of a small tribal group, I don't think the isolation we have currently in our culture is healthy.

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