What do you wish would change sbout the fitness industry?

[qbkilla]

I would regulate and legislate the industry in terms of quality standards of personal trainers/coaches. There is too much negligence and lack of professionalism. Too many losers who get a certification online and call themselves coaches. Other losers just by using steroids and looking "good", promote themselves in social media and then offer coaching without ever even having picked up a book in their lives.

At the same time there is too much arrogance. Too many people that think they know everything and they talk and speak with so much arrogance when in reality they are losers. Same goes in the world of people who workout. And that goes down to our culture. Americans are arrogant by nature. You cant tell anything to anybody. An average dude get his steroids on a locker room, goes to youtube to watch exercise videos, plus he modify some exercises and invent others, and put together a routine that in his mind, plus the steroids, will transform him into Arnold in 6 months. That is called Gym Fuckery. And nobody can question him. In his mind, he did his research and put together the best routine in the world, with trademarks exercises invented by him, while using the best steroids in the world bought at a locker room without even a label in the vial. Down the road he develops heart disease at 40 and lives on drugs for the rest of his life while doctors tell him "you're just a statistic, is normal to be ill"

In countries like Brazil every coach requires a University degree and a license to practice valid for one year. Strictly enforced in every single gym. And as part of the culture Brazilian people value having a coach rather than putting themselves at risk by copying shit from others and injecting oils without even knowing the science behind.

I agree with what you said for the most part about dbags but can't agree on universities being needed to train. Most universities in the usa are just social indoctrination centers and the things that they do give degrees in take much more learning than fitness. Being a good trainer IMO is just hands on experience. Can someone maintain a lean physique themself year around, build muscle? Showing that you can do that gives someone more credibility than being 14 percent and holding a degree. Fitness is a unique field I agree 90 percent of trainers I wouldn't hire as a dog catcher but that those thant can't figure out how to be fit and need a mentor, the best mentors should be people that practice and suceed in fitness not in anatomy and research labs.

 

[Biggerp73]

Regulate supplements so that ingredients match label claims

 

[lookslikesausage]

So much bullshit and lying to sell supplements and/or products and/or services. I would never hold it against someone for trying to make a buck but all the dishonesty that goes on in the fitness industry; it's too much. These behemoths who claim natural...bullshit. Even plenty of trainers are guilty (let's overcomplicate things and rename so they seem new so i can sell more). This supplement does xyz, you'll have a big bench, fuck the prom queen, and gain two inches on your dick...bullshit. I guess it's not as bad as it once was and i guess this industry from the beginning has always been rife with shysters and conmen but I still have to wonder how many newbs get tricked into wasting their hard-earned money on nonsense supplements or buying so and so's program because "he's natty like me and i train like him i'll look like him"...no. Yes, caveat emptor but still. The fitness industry, just as it was many decades ago, is still very much a smoke and mirrors industry that heavily preys on desperate young men who want to feel better about themselves. In some strange way, i feel like all the open and free info about AAS almost combats all the bogus supplement ads.

 

[Kimba]

'Fitness / Instagram Models' pimping products and wannabes that go to the gym to take pictures. Guys who do this promote new supplements.

Regulation got worse. I miss the good ol' OTC's full of illegal goodies.

Biggest thing is the vast expansion of the industry. I remember the whole 'bro, you need to try creatine' all the way to the current 'I have to eat six meals a day and three shakes. I add superfood powder, lechin powder, beet root powder, PB powder, etc.'

$500 - $1000 a month on supplements and powders that are mostly garbage or psuedo science. But these people go to the gym twice a week, mostly cardio, and run to GNC to buy the missing link to gain muscle.

The problem with the internet and social media is everyone is an expert. If you try to be nice and give some tips or advice, you get shit on even if you are huge. Man, times are weird.

 

[Dugbet]

In countries like Brazil every coach requires a University degree and a license to practice valid for one year. Strictly enforced in every single gym. And as part of the culture Brazilian people value having a coach rather than putting themselves at risk by copying shit from others and injecting oils without even knowing the science behind.

Lmfao, Brazil is not the country where idiots with arms full of SEO abound? And fake steroids are everywhere... so fuck the high physical culture of Brazil. At the end of the day it is a poor country and full of ignorant people.

 

[qbkilla]

'Fitness / Instagram Models' pimping products and wannabes that go to the gym to take pictures. Guys who do this promote new supplements.

Regulation got worse. I miss the good ol' OTC's full of illegal goodies.

Biggest thing is the vast expansion of the industry. I remember the whole 'bro, you need to try creatine' all the way to the current 'I have to eat six meals a day and three shakes. I add superfood powder, lechin powder, beet root powder, PB powder, etc.'

$500 - $1000 a month on supplements and powders that are mostly garbage or psuedo science. But these people go to the gym twice a week, mostly cardio, and run to GNC to buy the missing link to gain muscle.

The problem with the internet and social media is everyone is an expert. If you try to be nice and give some tips or advice, you get shit on even if you are huge. Man, times are weird.

Don't forget about people wanting to inject everything, orally isn't good enough for some. We want to inject our coffee in the am to wakeup then inject our melatonin before bed lol.

Another one I'll add, the amount of people who spend so much $$ to be fit and healthy but are always searching for a prescription or pharmaceutical to cure every little thing.

Can't sleep, need a drug. Feeling down, need a script. Couldn't get it up, cialis and caverject. Then shoot it in my peaks to get them to peak more for the milfs on treadmills to see on biceps day.

 

[TedDansen]

Remove the prescription regulation on gear. Just make it a behind counter item, and maybe an age limit.

#2 would be less bitching about "kids these days," but I'll gladly keep listening to it if I can get pharma gear easily and legally.

 

[buck]

Government regulating supplements sounds bad to me as for 1 the price will go up quite a bit. And any supplement that is proven to work would then be called a drug and have much stronger regulation. It is fairly easy to find good honest companies these days.

 

[DarrenG29]

The fitness industry as a whole has just changed in a good way

what I dislike is government raising the price on supplements which then getting say 5kg tubs of protein is limited due to cost where back in 2012 you could get 5kg tubs cheap until they put the prices up that’s the only thing I could say

 

[method2madness]

calling bodybuilding a "sport"
its not a sport. is physique a sport too?
its a muscle pageant. a hot bod contest. thats all. except its even less than a beauty pageant cuz there's actual categories in beauty pageants. u need personalirt and talent. not just a nice ass and big delts.

Building and shaping the contours of muscle takes a great degree of self knowledge and talent along with the most intense physical and mental discipline and training. The actual show may be a pageant but literally everything that leads up to it is 100% sport.

 

[Elvia1023]

The fitness industry as a whole has just changed in a good way

what I dislike is government raising the price on supplements which then getting say 5kg tubs of protein is limited due to cost where back in 2012 you could get 5kg tubs cheap until they put the prices up that’s the only thing I could say

Exactly. I wouldn't really change anything. There are idiots all over social media but you simply don't follow them. There are idiots in every gym but you just ignore them and get on with your workout. People will always complain about stuff but most of the time life is a mirror. Granted some people need to be called at times for their bullshit because it gets too much. It's always been the same way it's just now people have the internet as a platform for their bullshit. The industry as a whole has become a bit softer and it's diluted with crap but it's the same with many things. I have lot's of decent gyms to go to and there are lot's of motivational people on social media and also some great podcasts for entertainment so I wouldn't really change anything. I just look forward to the gyms actually being open again over here

 

[DarrenG29]

Exactly. I wouldn't really change anything. There are idiots all over social media but you simply don't follow them. There are idiots in every gym but you just ignore them and get on with your workout. People will always complain about stuff but most of the time life is a mirror. Granted some people need to be called at times for their bullshit because it gets too much. It's always been the same way it's just now people have the internet as a platform for their bullshit. The industry as a whole has become a bit softer and it's diluted with crap but it's the same with many things. I have lot's of decent gyms to go to and there are lot's of motivational people on social media and also some great podcasts for entertainment so I wouldn't really change anything. I just look forward to the gyms actually being open again over here

Lolol if we had to really think about social media is a negative it’s a breading ground for these idiots but that’s true we don’t need to follow thankfully and if they are in the gym ignore them this is a issue and the females who compete 6 months later then become Instagram coaches but overall the podcasts is the best thing to happen as you’ve got many good ones now which is a pleasure to watch

I wish they would just open now

 

[Geardepot]

It seems like a lot of people complain about the dishonesty of the supp. industry and their sneaky tactics to sell supplements. This could easily be squashed if people had even a basic understanding of how their body works and how supplements/drugs/training interact with the body. If everyone had a basic understanding of their body, you could easily see right through the "lose 20lbs of fat and gain 20 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks" type of claims and you would know thats just not possible. We walk around in these bodies our whole lives, yet the majority of us know very little about whats going on inside us and how food, training, supps etc work in the body? I've been guilty of this as much as the next person in my past. I remember buying a motorcycle to fix up and work on when I was younger. I didnt know shit about bikes when I bought it, but after 2 years I had learned a ton and could easily trouble shoot most issues that could go wrong, and I knew enough to understand what upgrades would be most effective to increase performance etc... I remember thinking about all I had learned about motorcycles in the last 2 years, and realizing that I didnt really know how or why a lot of the supplements and drugs I was using at the time worked in my body? Kinda funny to think about as the bike I worked on is now long gone now, but I'm still using the same body! Fortunately for me I took the lesson to heart and got my shit together and began to study up, but how many of us will spend money and use all of these different supps, workout routines, drugs but we don't even know how or why they do what they are suppose to do?
If we took a little time to get some basic understanding of how our bodies work, and understood our individual genetic potential better we could easily see through the bullshit outlandish claims being made and not get duped into buying all that garbage.

On another note, I can understand why so many guys long for 'the good ole days' when there was not as much bullshit to sort through. However, I think the advancements in everything related to health, fitness, drugs, supps etc we have today far and away much better and a net positive. There is just so much more research and improved science today then in the past, we just have to have the patience to sort through it and understand what it means.

 

[Geardepot]

Building and shaping the contours of muscle takes a great degree of self knowledge and talent along with the most intense physical and mental discipline and training. The actual show may be a pageant but literally everything that leads up to it is 100% sport.

I agree with you.
In the past I have defended bbing being a sport, and took offense when others said it was not. Now a days I don't really care what you want to call it, anyone who has really gone all in to build a physique, continue to refine it and present it onstage to be judged has my respect. Seems like most of the people who are intent on saying its not a 'sport' are arm chair QB's trying to justify their own lack of ambition in life.

 

[qbkilla]

It seems like a lot of people complain about the dishonesty of the supp. industry and their sneaky tactics to sell supplements. This could easily be squashed if people had even a basic understanding of how their body works and how supplements/drugs/training interact with the body. If everyone had a basic understanding of their body, you could easily see right through the "lose 20lbs of fat and gain 20 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks" type of claims and you would know thats just not possible. We walk around in these bodies our whole lives, yet the majority of us know very little about whats going on inside us and how food, training, supps etc work in the body? I've been guilty of this as much as the next person in my past. I remember buying a motorcycle to fix up and work on when I was younger. I didnt know shit about bikes when I bought it, but after 2 years I had learned a ton and could easily trouble shoot most issues that could go wrong, and I knew enough to understand what upgrades would be most effective to increase performance etc... I remember thinking about all I had learned about motorcycles in the last 2 years, and realizing that I didnt really know how or why a lot of the supplements and drugs I was using at the time worked in my body? Kinda funny to think about as the bike I worked on is now long gone now, but I'm still using the same body! Fortunately for me I took the lesson to heart and got my shit together and began to study up, but how many of us will spend money and use all of these different supps, workout routines, drugs but we don't even know how or why they do what they are suppose to do?
If we took a little time to get some basic understanding of how our bodies work, and understood our individual genetic potential better we could easily see through the bullshit outlandish claims being made and not get duped into buying all that garbage.

On another note, I can understand why so many guys long for 'the good ole days' when there was not as much bullshit to sort through. However, I think the advancements in everything related to health, fitness, drugs, supps etc we have today far and away much better and a net positive. There is just so much more research and improved science today then in the past, we just have to have the patience to sort through it and understand what it means.

This is a great post. I agree I don't fault the snake oil salesmen it's more of a lack of common sense among buyers who buy all these pills and powders. I don't know shit about cars, so I always have a warranty because I know someone is looking to rip me off lol.

As to bodybuilding being a sport which was mentioned earlier, if we call bodybuilding a sport then we go down a slippery slope where we can start to call anything a sport. Yoga, video games, racing cars where do we draw the line? I will say powerlifting and strength sports are sports, but not body sculpting. I don't consider what we do and athletic endeavor. Now competing to squat or bench more than others is, but hypertrophy I say no.

A hobby can require dedication, discipline, movement and still not be a sport. Most of us are less athletic due to the amount of muscle mass we carry we are less flexible and our cardio output is worse due to the goal to accumulate as much muscle as possible. Someone can be an athlete and bodybuilder and gaining muscle can help in sports but for the most part becoming as muscular as possible is less athletic. I've expericed this first hand when I play football and skinny guys who don't train can run circles around me and have better cardio despite me being relatively skinny and doing cardio ed

 

[opietaylor]

the advent of board shorts

 

[headtrainer]

Get rid of dishonest sales people who are just in it for the money. And eliminate fad diets and obsolete training methods that cause more harm than good.

 

[KillerStack]

Remove the prescription regulation on gear. Just make it a behind counter item, and maybe an age limit.

#2 would be less bitching about "kids these days," but I'll gladly keep listening to it if I can get pharma gear easily and legally.

I'm not in the US but it appears to me that gear is legal in the US right now, at least the "clinics" are acting like it. They are all over Instagram advertising how you can get any oral or injectable legally. GH the same.

If anyone here knows where they get their hormones from I'd like to know. I very much doubt they are made in the US like they claim.

How are they getting away with it?

 

[qbkilla]

I'm not in the US but it appears to me that gear is legal in the US right now, at least the "clinics" are acting like it. They are all over Instagram advertising how you can get any oral or injectable legally. GH the same.

If anyone here knows where they get their hormones from I'd like to know. I very much doubt they are made in the US like they claim.

How are they getting away with it?

I'd like to know this too. I used to know a tattoo artist who used a clinic he showed me var and test they sent him, it loOked just like an ug lab to me

 

[KillerStack]

I would regulate and legislate the industry in terms of quality standards of personal trainers/coaches. There is too much negligence and lack of professionalism. Too many losers who get a certification online and call themselves coaches. Other losers just by using steroids and looking "good", promote themselves in social media and then offer coaching without ever even having picked up a book in their lives.

At the same time there is too much arrogance. Too many people that think they know everything and they talk and speak with so much arrogance when in reality they are losers. Same goes in the world of people who workout. And that goes down to our culture. Americans are arrogant by nature. You cant tell anything to anybody. An average dude get his steroids on a locker room, goes to youtube to watch exercise videos, plus he modify some exercises and invent others, and put together a routine that in his mind, plus the steroids, will transform him into Arnold in 6 months. That is called Gym Fuckery. And nobody can question him. In his mind, he did his research and put together the best routine in the world, with trademarks exercises invented by him, while using the best steroids in the world bought at a locker room without even a label in the vial. Down the road he develops heart disease at 40 and lives on drugs for the rest of his life while doctors tell him "you're just a statistic, is normal to be ill"

In countries like Brazil every coach requires a University degree and a license to practice valid for one year. Strictly enforced in every single gym. And as part of the culture Brazilian people value having a coach rather than putting themselves at risk by copying shit from others and injecting oils without even knowing the science behind.

The words "legislate" and "regulate" just make my skin crawl, for many reasons.

Bodybuilding has been, and will for the foreseeable future be, "experimental". There's no way to standardize it. No one here, no matter how health conscious, is flocking to hire a Brazilian "licensed" coach.