Would you use an anti-e on this cycle?

[EuG3Ni0]

I'm starting this cycle:
1-6 Oxydrol (50 - 100 - 100 - 100 - 100 - 50)mg ed
1-12 Sustanon 500mg
1-12 Deca-Durabolin 400mg

A friend of mine is telling me that he wouldn't use an antiestrogenic but I'm scared from oxymetholone, I never used it and I always used proviron during my cycles and I never had gyno problems.

At home I have Arimidex and Nolvadex, would you use one of them?
If yes which and how much?

Thank you all

 

[allbeef]

I may be not up to date on this but

everyone I know only uses Nolva if the nips get sore and then they use 80mg a day until the soreness subsides.

Armidex 0.25mg every other day seems to be the dose to use if you want and anti aromasizer and to lessen water retention a little.

I think you use armidex if you have it but if you are limited on funds I am sure a lot of guys go without it.

Allbeef

Bro,

theres an informative thread on " bitch tits " and Alin is advocating armidex during cycle.

 

[OuchThatHurts]

I'm starting this cycle:
1-6 Oxydrol (50 - 100 - 100 - 100 - 100 - 50)mg ed
1-12 Sustanon 500mg
1-12 Deca-Durabolin 400mg

A friend of mine is telling me that he wouldn't use an antiestrogenic but I'm scared from oxymetholone, I never used it and I always used proviron during my cycles and I never had gyno problems.

At home I have Arimidex and Nolvadex, would you use one of them?
If yes which and how much?

Thank you all

I think you should wait until you start to notice some sides... A-50's cannot convert to estrogen like test. The deca same deal. I'd say you'd be seeing more conversion from the sustanon than anything else. If you are prone to estrogenic sides you could start the cycle and see if anything develops and then add some arimidex as allbeef said because that would limit the conversion. Still, unless you already know you are severly estrogen sensitive, gyno prone, or suffer other estrogenic sides then maybe something like nolvadex will help. But from what little you may see from the nandrolone and the test at those doses, I doubt it would be necessary.

 

[jtat326]

Deca may not convert to estrogen but it really opens the progest receptors, in some ways making it worse then AAS that do aromatize. I use .025 adex eod and keep Nolva on hand in case. On current cycle I had to use both. Didn't hurt strength much and the only size it's kept down was water, and that goes when I come off anyway.

 

[EuG3Ni0]

In truth I programmed to use 0.25mg arimidex eod during all the cycle but this friend told me to save it for PCT.

Anyways I need to gain the maximum amount of mass and strenght from this cycle...

 

[K1]

everyone I know only uses Nolva if the nips get sore and then they use 80mg a day until the soreness subsides.

Armidex 0.25mg every other day seems to be the dose to use if you want and anti aromasizer and to lessen water retention a little.

I think you use armidex if you have it but if you are limited on funds I am sure a lot of guys go without it.

Allbeef

Bro,

theres an informative thread on " bitch tits " and Alin is advocating armidex during cycle.

Bump this...........

 

[Master"O"]

I prefer to use arimidex as it is less toxic for the liver then novaldex. Specially if you are using anadrol you don't want the extra stress on your liver.

 

[EuG3Ni0]

I prefer to use arimidex as it is less toxic for the liver then novaldex. Specially if you are using anadrol you don't want the extra stress on your liver.

Thank you, do you think that I will have gyno problems without an anti-e with these amount of gear?

I'm using 8 tabs of Liv.52 at day for my liver health.

 

[Heavy_Lifter]

Oxydrol is not estrogenic, but can cause really bad sides in the presence of an estrogen. No amount of anti-e's will reduce the sides from the oxydrol itself - you have to make sure estrogen is not formed in the first place.

 

[jtat326]

I prefer to use arimidex as it is less toxic for the liver then novaldex. Specially if you are using anadrol you don't want the extra stress on your liver.

Bump this. Also adex should be used during cycle not for PCT IMO.

 

[heyherc]

I wont use it unless
I need it, and if I need it, here's what I do. If I start to get itchy (and it has happened only a few times) I will take .5mg rimi/day and 40mg nolva/day for about a week, then I'll cut it in half for a few more days and if everything is now non itchy, I stop it and either carry on with the cycle, or lower the test dose a little bit fore the remainder of the cycle.

My reason for not using it throughout the entire cycle is this, I am a cheap bastard and arimidex is not cheap, and nolva is not really expensive, but if
I dont need to use what I have, I won't WASTE it if it is not needed. Secondly, a lot of people feel that using it can hinder your gains because some conversion is good for the cycle, so I follow that advice as well.

 

[southeastar]

re

what did i tell you??im always right

 

[jtat326]

I wont use it unless
I need it, and if I need it, here's what I do. If I start to get itchy (and it has happened only a few times) I will take .5mg rimi/day and 40mg nolva/day for about a week, then I'll cut it in half for a few more days and if everything is now non itchy, I stop it and either carry on with the cycle, or lower the test dose a little bit fore the remainder of the cycle.

My reason for not using it throughout the entire cycle is this, I am a cheap bastard and arimidex is not cheap, and nolva is not really expensive, but if
I dont need to use what I have, I won't WASTE it if it is not needed. Secondly, a lot of people feel that using it can hinder your gains because some conversion is good for the cycle, so I follow that advice as well.

Not trying to be a dick but adex is definitely cheaper then the surgery to remove the man breasts that may start to grow.

 

[EuG3Ni0]

what did i tell you??im always right

:ac:ion-sm

 

[alan1973]

.25 of A-dex EOD is expensive, how about E3rdD?