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I am often asked what does rhodiola do...

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it does seem to have a practical use for me. i work the graveyard shift and have for years. had trouble staying awake if i would sit for to long with little to do...like while driving. since i have started taking rhodiola, that is no longer an issue.
 

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had migraines my entire life, my sup regime basically makes them none existent...

never had a headache from rho...

Thank you for your input LK3. Cheers mate
 

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LK3, thanks for sharing your experiences/info regarding Rhodiola Rosea!

I've tried it before but never been on it for a few mobths, I'm going to give it a shot now.

Would you mind going into your dosage progression? Perhaps your reasoning behind it?

Were you very gradual or did you jump up to a high dose rather quickly?

You ocassionally go up to 2g, when out of your other supps, if I recall correctly?

I'm a big advocate for marijuana as well. Especially combining marijuana edibles (30-40mg) with the sensory deprivation tank
 

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I don't like adaptogens. I've used both rhodiola and ashwagandha. Together, separately, and at different doses. I definitely think some type of cycling strategy needs to be used and to be careful with doses. I experienced benefits with both, but I can say from experience that you can have some very bad days if you take too much.

I used extracts of both and I found that if you take too much, or too frequently (ie every day) anything you are worried about or struggling with gets amplified negatively on a seemingly exponential scale. It's almost like having a bad trip and the only thing that resolves it is time and discontinue of use.
 

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sure happy to.

( a bit long and rambling but trying to give a good and relevant answer )

I am not going to derail this talking about cann I will talk about it a little as for real it is a vital supplement for me, really I think that is the true place it holds in things.

in regards to dosing of all things I am not obsessively accurate.in general my house is filled with viplock bags filled with various powders nothing is labeled, no vials are labeled just lots of seemingly random stuff that few would be able to identify, lol.

I use a small spoon and dose out powders, every now and then I sit down with a scale and all my powders and check my weights, so atleast I know the general area im in. I am actually quite accurate, I just wanted this part to be clear since people have a tendency to obsess over minute details, they are not so relevant in this case.

i try to stay on the following list of things, i often run out 1-3 times a year so i take a little break while waiting for something new. i have also run out due to various life complications, so that shouldbe taken into account as well.

i do use 10-20g ed of cann. this is my most vital mood supplement. i really cannot say just how important this has been for me and how the various issues associated with it have effected my life over the years. i have used similar amounts for easily 10 years. if using correctly i have no mental effect, it takes about 4 weeks to adjust if stopped. i have zero of the effect that other people use this for and do not really like how that feels, i also really dislike people who are using this supplement in that nature, just like i don't like to hang out with drunk people.

all of what i do in terms of diet/training/sups is really for my head and trying to find a functional happy sort of life.

when i was young before i could play sports i had lots of problems in school and behavior and all kinds of things like that. once i was able to play sports i and my parents noticed was much better, acting feeling, etc.

i learned as i went on that activity was super important to me, mentally and physically.

i had lots of ups and downs also changed weight a lot, 170-300lbs.

in my early 20s i went to the dr for some problems, i couldn't sleep, didn't feel right was starting to get psoriasis, all kinds of shit was off.

the dr was horrible, gave me plenty of shitty meds, they had all kinds of crazy effects but gave up on all that real quick and started looking into other things.

played with every sup imaginable at the time, hired dc to help me with training, he was also really helpful with health sups, around this time is also when i really got into learning about body, brain, chemistry etc...

i had real problems sleeping, a friend had left some cann at my house after we had gone out, i had not really used since i was a kid but a cpl rand drunk times for whatever reason i tried it to help sleep one night and was amazed at how well it worked. after that i started using regularly for sleep.

this was a time in my life when i was like supplement obsessed my kitchen looked like vitamin shoppe, i was always very analytical introducing various things and took the same approach with cann.

it was also around this time when i started having more head problems, diagnosed bipolar and borderline personality disorder and all that go with it...

at some point i forget what i t was but had to go to some stressful event. my whole life i have had an explosive temper that caused me a LOT of problems. i was nervous as to what might happen so i smoked before i went. i found i was much better able to control my behavior. this is how i started using cann at other times. again a very cause and effect analytical approach. ( dr's would have me living on kpin... )

im jumping around a lot here but what im trying to show you guys is WHY i do what i do.

it is not for some general health "idea" it is not because it looks good on paper, its because i have to deal with some very real things that have a drastic impact on the quality and span of my life.

i have done a lot of stupid things, i try and learn form what i have done but i know i will continue to do stupid things. the medical diagnosis i have while not something like cancer increases the chance of me dying quite a bit on paper, like 5x more then a normal person. but wtf does that mean?

the realty of that means that there is a really good chance that one of my dumbass actions gets me killed, there is a really good chance of that, its actually sort of a miracle that it has not happened yet, by my actions or my own hand.

i have known this for some time and have been quite active in trying to fix it, i make jokes about a lot of this shit but it isn't easy being not normal. i am always working on my head, thought process and actions.

learning all of this is why i was interested in the supplements i take, they address these real problems that i have on paper, lots of things do but in the real world these make a substantial enough difference that i can actually see feel and measure.

some of that is measured by my ability to not be such a psyco, i know what that is on the inside but it is also easy to tell by how others react to me... lol

so the basis of all my supplementation is to fix the problems, not be a psyco, not get sick ( i used to get sick a lot and you cant train when youre sick ) then if something has added performance aspects even better.

i am in this for the long haul, been on necessary trt since 25, ill be on for life, as stated i NEED the activity, im not good at just doing something, training with weights is the one thing i can do that allows me to push myself to extremes and limit the incidence of sever injury, thus allowing me to continue! i think that why weights are so appealing. ( fighting sports are fun but longevity limited.. lol)

after years of this, sports and destructive life i have lots of injuries, bumps bruises and joint issues from psoriasis.

i live on the following:

test 100-300mg wk
i do take breaks during the year but not for too long, just enough to get over being tired of pinning

anastrozole depends on test dosing

Cialis low dose, circulation, and all the fun stuff

resveratrol 400 ish mg wk this dose so many cool things, its all in theory but since using i stay leaner with no work i also don't get sick and recover like a mofo feel way better on then off. seems to help my psoriasis but not directly. i come off when i run out. taking a week or two break form shots right now, which i do 2-3 times a year. since 2009

curcumin as much as i can tolerate and afford. makes all mypains go away, high doses make me much fuller, i don't get bruises except for blood under skin. since 09-10

glutathione 600mg wk. higher if sick or liver stress. i don't get sick when i stayon, that's enough for me. important for brain function plus all the rest. i fear running out. 2010

SOD 2500iu wk more when sick or stressed feeling. addsmore to the not getting sick part. been using this since 2007.

rho, been using this for 4+ years at high doses. major impact on mood. i notice it more after years of using.

idebenone started using in 2005ish for skin issues i see much more impact on high doses, close to 1g ed. i feel rho more in the head though, i feel less muscle soreness with this.

grape seed extract 4+ years, no noticeable feel.

when i stopped this combo i had a terrible psoriasis flare up that did not go away until back on.

using this has made my skin almost completely clear, if i come off it gets worse. i try and stay on. psoriasis is really ugly.

zinc 150mg ed 50mg each

magnesium taurate 1g+ if stressed more or if taking niacinamide

potassium citrate, i notice when i stop taking it my stomach feels worse, also helps regulate ph, which is important.

d3 various does.

i also stay on some sort of dopamine agonist i try to rotate them. right now using prolactin-x and stephania intermediary. both are quite strong dopamine sups, the steph will make me manic ifi take too much. getting this part right really helps with mood, can also make you crazy horny... other times i might rotate caber, prami or things like that. i have tried coca leaves but they were not as interesting for this and performance as i had hoped.

melatonin 10-50mg, helps me sleep and is good for so many things.

if i take out parts of this i notice it, i feel different or my skin gets worse, its very clear to see.

Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
 

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I enioy Rhodiolas benefits. Take it in the morning(500mg NOW brand currently) with other a.m supps upon waking. Seems to level out the stimmed caffeine feeling.

Be aware though..if taken in the evening it can cause sleeping issues.
 

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I know this is an old thread but I wasn't aware of rhodiola at the time of this thread. Now I use 500mg when I wake up in the morning. Didn't know mega dosing this was a thing. It's a great supplement for health and helps with focus.
 

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Rhodiola is great but so is Ashwagandha..try/rotate both.

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Rhodiola Rosea at 100mg/day working up to 200mg/day has lots of positive benefits.
 

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Careful with the mega dosing. For some people, it works well. But if I push past 600mg, I start getting tired and irritable.

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Unless, I find some additional compelling info I'm probably going to stick with the 100-200mg dose for a few months
 

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Unless, I find some additional compelling info I'm probably going to stick with the 100-200mg dose for a few months

Not only that..studies have shown anything past 600mg a day is a waste.
 

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Unless, I find some additional compelling info I'm probably going to stick with the 100-200mg dose for a few months

That sounds pretty low, no? I haven't even seen it sold in less than 250mg pills. Most are 500-600mg per pill. It's a great health supplement so I don't see any reason to be cautious going over 200mg. Bloodwork, BP, and focus have only been positive for me since adding it.

https://examine.com/supplements/rhodiola-rosea/
According to examine, it can be effective as low as 50mg and as high as 688mg. So I suppose 100-200mg is good. I prefer to maximize the effects though.
 
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Also need to take into consideration the extract being used when talking doses.
 

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Yup!

@not human. Im using Biotest's brand, which seems to be very high quality.

So the recommended dose based on their extract is 100-200mg.

Also need to take into consideration the extract being used when talking doses.
 

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Yup!

@not human. Im using Biotest's brand, which seems to be very high quality.

So the recommended dose based on their extract is 100-200mg.

Ah I see. I was only familiar with Rhodiola Rosea so my dosing was in reference to that type. Thanks for clarifying.
 

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Some say that the salidroside and tyrosol are the compounds that are actually active in rhodiola. There's a nootropic vendor called Ceretropic who offers an isolated salidroside/tyrosol sublingual liquid. I might try that once my current supply of rhodiola runs out.

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Interesting.... I've bought from ceretropic several times in the past (selank & semac nasal spray) But I mostly buy from nootropicsdepot, regularly. You buy from ceretropic often? What do you buy, if so?

Can't remember noticing a signifcant effect from the nasal sprays. Perhaps my body/brain chemistry wasn't complementary towards it or other supps/drugs I was taking at the time we're inhibiting the effects...

Some say that the salidroside and tyrosol are the compounds that are actually active in rhodiola. There's a nootropic vendor called Ceretropic who offers an isolated salidroside/tyrosol sublingual liquid. I might try that once my current supply of rhodiola runs out.

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